Comments on: Jane Harman Will Vote Against a Bill Without a Strong Public Option

By: jogger

jogger — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:58:19 +0000

This video seems to be proof that a little Marcy Winograd goes a long way to see Jane run, but more importanly, to see Jane start talking like she’s about to do right by her district.

We’ll see…

By: Jane Hamsher

Jane Hamsher — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:56:08 +0000

You. Have. No. Plan.

Your plan is to sit here and complain in our comment section. Unless we are a great deal more powerful than I ever expected, you are committed to failure, and you want to drag everyone else down with you.

Have a safe trip.

By: dick c

dick c — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:21:11 +0000

Copy off of Redstate? The only “triggers” I’ve ever seen mentioned by the right are designed to prevent a public plan of any sort. I’m actually optimistic, perhaps without reason, about getting a public plan included in this legislation (or seeing it scuttled), and suggested a trigger for developing a single-payer universal coverage system.

By: sporkovat

sporkovat — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:17:16 +0000

geez settle down - maybe some folks here think of you like a mommy but not me.

don’t you realize that demanding a fully realized counterplan from your critics is the very same tactic supporters of Bush’s wars used so frequently?

and so the inability to suddenly produce a fully realized counterplan on complete withdrawal from Iraq that would give everyone a pony was taken as an endorsement of the status quo?

but those paying attention could realize that just because Scott Ritter does not have a plan to give everyone in the M.E. a pony does not mean he is wrong.

indeed this form of argumentation is often adopted when one’s position cannot be clearly defended, therefore, since this is the internet, call the other guy a troll! Q.E.D.

By: Jane Hamsher

Jane Hamsher — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:57:22 +0000

Good, tell me how it’s possible. What’s your plan?

How does hanging out in our comments section and trying to piss on our efforts get you one more vote?

Are you trying to get me to do your work for you? Do you want me to vote count and start pressuring legislators on your behalf?

I’m not your mommy. Until you’re willing to do the work yourself, you deserve no respect — you’re just a troll whose legislative strategy is linking to other people’s ideas in some comment section.

By: Ann in AZ

Ann in AZ — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:34:25 +0000

Blue Texan’s regularly scheduled post is up on the front page: “Blue Dog Mike Ross Made Millions Selling Prescription Drugs, Threatening to Kill Health Care Reform”

By: SouthernDragon

SouthernDragon — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:32:13 +0000

He’s more moderate than I like but then I’m pretty far left.

By: sporkovat

sporkovat — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:31:25 +0000

your engaging in a fantasy.

given the track record of the Democratic Party in working against real reform - keeping Single Payer off the table to start with - one could say that you are also engaging in a fantasy.

but that would be invective, who can have such certainty?

the votes for Single Payer do not exist because the President you strove so hard to elect, who has great oratorical skills and great influence over the legislators of his party does not want Single Payer to be an option for Americans.

so, rather than simply accept what the Leader has decreed, I would like to expand what is considered possible, as with the good folks at:

http://www.singlepayeraction.org/index.php

whose points still remain unaddressed in this little discussion of sporkovats futility.

By: dosido

dosido — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:30:15 +0000

That’s OK. We all know that the education system in socialist countries totally suck.

By: dosido

dosido — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:29:15 +0000

How can he lose with a name like Charlie Justice?!

I wish my name was Charlie Justice. Wow.