As for a public option, Ross said the Blue Dogs want to “take on the insurance companies” by threatening them with a public option if the cross certain “triggers,” such as continuing to exclude or penalize Americans with pre-existing conditions.
“We want to take on the insurance companies more than others in our party,” he said.
Ross is demanding triggers. Because he and the Blue Dogs want to "take on the insurance companies."
Mike Stark has been looking for Ross all week, and has been asking those in leadership — like Charles Rangel — what they intended to do about a Democrat threatening to tank health care. Rangel claimed he didn’t know who Ross was.
Mike finally caught up with Ross when he was outside the Capitol, being interviewed by Dana Bash of CNN. From the outset, let me say that I don’t want Mike interrupting an interview and apologize to her that it happened. But I’m putting up the tapes in full because I think people need to see them.
Dana Bash has access. She can get an interview with the guy who is threatening to hold up passage of a meaningful public plan. But during her interview, Ross is never confronted with hard questions about the consequences of his actions. He’s allowed to spew Blue Dog nonsense about triggers virtually unchallenged, and stands there quite impressed with himself.
Bash is extremely deferential to Ross during the interview, and you can see how terribly pleased with himself he is over what he’s doing. After the interview is over, she attempts to shield him from Mike’s very real questions — which he acknowledges he wouldn’t have to ask if journalists were asking them.
It’s hard to communicate to people just how cocooned Capitol Hill is from the concerns of the real world. The place is swarming with lobbyists all wanting their piece of the pie, and the atmosphere is of power brokers wheeling and dealing for billions of dollars.
I snapped this photo of Charles Rangel talking to a lobbyist for medical equipment manufacturers in the back of the room during the Ways & Means hearing. Real world consequences for average people just don’t have a presence there.
Mike’s anger is real — people worked hard to elect Democrats and this is what happens. Mike Ross wants to "slow things down," the same thing the Republicans are calling for, which is conveniently what the insurance industry wants. They want time to hammer people in their districts during August with billions in advertising and hire Dick Armey to picket their events.
And Ross doesn’t have to think about the 14,000 Americans who will lose their insurance every day while he and his fellow Blue Dogs blackmails the taxpayers, because nobody is asking him.
As Nyceve says:
Just to put a fine point on it, over three weeks in America: * 143,250 people will lose their health insurance coverage * 53,507 people will file for bankruptcy because they can’t pay their medical bills * 1,265 people will die because they lack coverage
Mike Stark asked a US Congressman on the street in Washington DC the questions that anyone should be able to ask of him, just as Glenn Greenwald and I did in Denver at the AT&T Blue Dog party — and with much the same results. Ross was silent. He wouldn’t respond to Mike. Instead, he allowed access to a reporter who constructs health care stories around Mitch McConnell’s talking points.
Mike has conducted over 60 video interviews this week with members of Congress asking the questions that "journalists" won’t ask. We’re working to get them all up.





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wow.
Go Mike!! Stark that is.
It’s an amazing piece of video.
My two healthcare protest signs for today’s rally here in Maine:
Couple of times I’ve read this type of statement by Mike Ross this morning. Wondering just which “progressives” he’s referring, and if true, whether they are thanking him for the same reason he’s slowing down the process?
Wow.
The Senate poses a greater threat to passage of health care reform than does the house.
Choose which Dems to pressure on the public option by voting here: http://vote.wewantthepublicoption.com/p-fb-fdl
The PCCC and DFA will run ads in the winners’ home states!
Fine. Let him enumerate triggers. If they have already been tripped, then insurance companies are out.
Great work. And honestly if Dana Bash was doing her job this video wouldn’t be necessary. She like many other are a big part of the problem.
Mike Stark did excellent work on that.
insurance companies had their chance, and they are epic fail. end of story.
IIRC, Mike Ross wife runs the family pharmacy. And rumors increase every day about Mike wanting to run for AR Governor.
Maybe I am reading you incorrectly, but Mike’s trigger is about maintaining a low number of people who will have the choice to participate in a public plan. For Mike the more folks forced by law to buy private insurance the better.
That article will be read by more Arkansans than any other today (on this issue). I always label John Brummett as the Manly vapors and pearl clutching AR Broder.
The best line of the interview was Mike Stark telling Dana Bash that Mike wouldn’t have to interrupt her interview if she would ask the right questions. Hahaha. Bet she didn’t hear it, though.
I just don’t think that’s true — the only place there is a chance to get a good bill is the House. If you can’t get one there, where is it going to come from? That’s what Ross is trying to block.
Had their chance, indeed. Insurance companies have been running healthcare like ruthless mafiosos for decades. Each year that passes, they get more legislation passed that gives them a bigger bite out of the public. Insurance companies are killing people and bankrupting people.
How can it be that insurance companies are still reaping huge profits while nearly everyone else is suffering?
Its funny Dana Bash has access to politicians because she agrees never to ask questions. Its time we stop assuming the Media is dumb Healthcare is at 70% approval in spite of lopsided Mainstream Media coverage.
Who is the real Journalist the one with access and a really really good make up artist.
Or the person willing to ask the tough questions about the issues the Politicians won’t answer.
Could be a lie to build the appearance of Cred.
Great job Mike!
Ross’ comments really confirm the importance of the “the pledge.” Mike Ross is doing a terrific job of protecting the health insurance industry, which adds zero value.
I hope we can get cover for Mike Stark, someone to record him, recording Congress.
Ross and those other Blue Dogs on Energy and Commerce are all going to hear from me.
BushSchadenFreud
SchadenFreud taking delight in an other person’s pain.
BushSchadenFreud taking delight in making money off of another person’s Pain.
The Devil has gone Capitalist it seems.
Go Mike! Ask the questions that must be asked, those that the Dana Bash’s of the MSM will never ask!!
single Payer from the very start! Health Insurance Companies have had their chance for over 60 years! Time for them to go the way of the Dodo Bird and become extinct!!
Didn’t McCarthy have a list of names too?
Excellent work! Don’t let the corporate media hacks intimidate you. Keep confronting these jackals.
I’ve long thought one way to fight back would be to form insurance unions, modeled after credit unions, for the collective bargaining clout and so forth. Guess what? That’s illegal, at least here in FL. It is against the law to form a group for the specific purpose of buying group insurance. To buy group insurance, a group must have some other primary purpose.
Free Market My Ass.
i am not sure what is wrong with interrupting Dana while she is on public property interviewing a public official.
Dana says it is “not cool” as if we share some enterprise with her and her boss.
That is insane but true.
Jane, Scarecrow has a great post up this morning that makes an analogy between Enron (which produced nothing, just made an enormous amount of money by putting itself in the middle of energy deals and restricting competition) and the current legislative dealmaking going on right now, especially with respect to insurers (who also provide nothing, but make an enormous amount of money by putting themselves in between individuals and health care). I think it’s a comparison that would really resonate with the public and could be used to put lawmakers on the spot. Perhaps you and Mike can find a way to work it in to your interviews…
Agree.
It’s the insurance lobby/thugs who are against competition. They skim all the revenue from those least likely to need insurance, then they dump everyone else on the government. That’s not a business plan, that’s stealing from the taxpayers.
Administrative costs for Medicare are around 3%. Administrative costs for the health care industry are around 20%.
And it wasn’t a live interview, it was taped. But after the interview is done, there is no reason to shield Ross, and that’s what happens.
Scarecrow is spot on.
Mike Ross lied about the cost of healthcare was this before the latest news that it would run a surplus?
This trigger mechanism what is the trigger. The public option can’t be based on Medicare rates.
The best argument is imagine if everyone had healthcare imagine the waiting times.
Maybe we can get Cuba to send us Doctors?
The existence of those laws is one of the best examples I know, of how much a stranglehold the insurance racket has on our healthcare system.
Mike Stark next time have some questions for Dana Bash.
Sadly, there’s nothing wrong with any of this in the eyes of the media. If they ask tough questions, it limits their access in the future to ask further lame questions.
Unfortunately, Uncle Walter is dead, and so is mainstream media journalism. It takes the Mike Starks of the new internet media to do the job. And that, boys and girls, is why they hate the internet. It’s taken them decades to train the barking seals on TV and in print. They don’t want to have to do it again. Too much time and effort. Kill access to broadband, which is what they’re still trying to do, and they win. And no barking seal will breath a word of it. It would kill their access…
hye, he didnt get in the shot.
LMAO, just called Ross’ DC office to leave a voicemail. I can’t it’s already full.
I’m not waiting for Monday. I’m faxing Ross that I will contribute to a primary against him until he apologizes to Mike Stark and “TAKES THE PLEDGE.”
Heck if Dana was asking questions and challenging Mike’s lies then it would be an interview what Dana was doing is Judy Miller Stenography.
Does Dana want Tweety’s job someday?
Because I have to suspect–and couldn’t much blame–FDL of not religiously combing through the YouTube comments, here’s my expanded 2 cents:
“Lapdog”.
Hearing that I though to myself, ‘Good on you, brother. I’d call ‘em more than that.’ Then Stark calls them…more than that.
You’re speaking for many more than yourself here, Mike.
It can’t be easy getting up in these people’s faces–to a person, viscerally irked by yr presence–and still remain level-headed, civil, searching for the right tone despite pointing a camera in the subject’s face.
There’s an awkward discomfort built into this new genre of sort of ’squeeky wheel’ journalism being explored here. It’s a little distracting, but to this viewer feels genuine in a way that’s healthy.
I applaud that and also, here w/ Ross and the suck-up reporter, bravo for dropping that respectful tone when your subjects don’t merit it.
Jane, how feasible do you think it is, while the healthcare reform bill is being written, to try to get in a provision overturning all the state laws prohibiting the formation of “insurance unions”?
Nominated 4 best impersonation of a reporter: CNN’s Dana Bash.
it is perfectly predictable that “this is what happens” when Democrats are in power.
will they end Bush’s wars? No!
will they hold torturers accountable? No!
will they roll back police state powers put in place in the last 8 years? No!
will they work to put in place Single Payer, and remove the profit-sucking parasites from the health-care system? Definitely not! their half-assed reforms are designed to avert that!
will they continue the epic transfer of wealth from the taxpayer to Wall Street? Yep!
And Hillary is even saber rattling about a US attack on Iran –
you properly point out how cocooned DC is from the rest of the world – politics as usual, supporting (D)’s no matter what – is highly unlikely to change that.
Well said.
This was uncomfortable, and my admiration to Mike for sticking with it. As bad as this video proves Ross to be, it’s a complete disgrace for the so-called journalism profession in Major News Networks.
We just watch Mike interrupt a DC cocktail party. Good job!
Snark right she can’t be nominated for anything with the word reporter in it…can she?
Certainly we have a much better chance of getting a good bill out of the House, but that’s clearly insufficient (see the stimulus bill).
There’s pretty much no way that they would set up triggers that are actually achievable by average folks in normal situations.
Furthermore, maybe this post should be retitled:
Video: Mike Stark Puts Blue Dog Mike Ross and CNN “Reporter” Dana Bash On the Spot
What is going on in Mike Ross’s home district. Is local media putting up op eds and balanced news? Are statistics available for what his constituents are facing?
CNN needs to be challenged for their lack of balance. Why have they not sent their bus to Canada to see what is really going on? Why has no one done a current poll in Canada?
Yeah! and Mike Ross whats the inside word on him from Pups in his district.
Dana Bash, as Mike Stark forcefully and succinctly told her, had absolutely not one spec more right to the space and time during what we witnessed on the video than Mike Stark did. Seeing her, towards the end of her appearance in the video, puffing up and getting all pissed off, as if her CNN appointed pedestal had given her automatic and understood gawd-given rights to prance along side of the object of her affection, was classic and hilarious all though, infuriating at the same time.
Agree.
Dana’s “access” comes from the “reader’s right to know.”
When she and her producers fail to ask the questions readers want asked, she ceases to function as a “reporter.”
ther to a higher standard.
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepa…..raphic.htm
this is a really really good grafic comparing the senate and house health care proposals.
note:
subsidies for SMALL business to provide health care
AND
taxes on people who dont buy health insurance
AND
help for those below certain AGI to subsidize health insurance.
This bill provides SEVERAL ways to make health care more affordable for small business and for their workers to get insurance instead of going bare.
I dont get this AT ALL from any coverage on TV or the BS from blue dogs and Goopers.
Dana Bash is not a reporter. She just plays one on TV.
It’s simple payola.
How many millions are spent on CNN’s air by health related companies each year?
Who do you think CNN’s going to represent, if not those with the money that pays all their salaries?
No.. His district has to be among the lowest (true) info districts in the country.
Half of it or more is still mired in the old plantation mentality, bordering Mississippi. The other half in timber and gas… bordering old/rural Louisiana and Texas and Oklahoma. Local AR TV news is less than dismal to be nice about it.. If it ain’t on TV it doesn’t exist for most folks. The AR Dem Gazette newspaper is owned by billionaire (Scaife buddy) Hass. And the radio waves are dominated by religious nuts and Limbaugh.
Thinking about Hot Springs, AR…. Hmmmmm. Is there anyone from there who could go and campaign for meaningful health care reform?
Oh wait. Isn’t there some guy named Clinton who still might have some pull there?
That might be handy….
This is incredibly important work.
I found myself wishing I’d been there with Mike to hold the camera for him at least, and to show support.
These representatives in Congress need to be confronted daily and need to answer questions from real people.
It’s really hard to contain the outrage when I consider all the work being done — countless hours and countless people working for nothing to improve our lot in life and to just get some decent goddamned health care. And Ross just needs to get seven, *seven* people to sabotage all of it.
And, wait for it… he gets paid to do that by, wait for it… you!
I’d say that if he can’t – or won’t – provide names, he doesn’t have any backing worth the descriptiong.
Dana Bash is nothing but a fluffer for Blue Dogs and Republiclans. She would have the public think she is a legitimate journalist when in reality she has more in common with fluffers in the porn industry.
The audio on my computer is not great but did this guy actually imply that if everyone had access to health care that there wouldn’t be enough doctors and people like him would have to stand in line? That speaks volumes.
I live in Mike Ross’s district, and his staffer gave me some pablum about Ross’s concern for rural constituents when describing Ross’s goals for altering 3200. I should have asked where I could find the passages to which he specifically objected in the text of the bill, but did not.
I intend to call again on Monday, particularly in light of that outrageous video (bravo, Mike Stark), and ask the following:
Does Congressman Ross support the idea of triggers, by which private insurance firms are merely threatened with a public option only after they had committed a certain number of infractions over a predetermined period of time? How long is that period?
How does Congressman Ross justify denying the citizens of a state suffering from disproportionate poverty, unemployment, and underemployment, with strong concentrations of each in HIS district, access to the very health care coverage that he and his family enjoys at public expense?
If H.B. 3200 does not report out of the Energy and Commerce Committee with an immediately-available public option, would Congressman Ross agree to surrender his current publicly-funded health care policy and instead take out a private health insurance policy, for himself and his family, to demonstrate his confidence that private insurance firms can provide quality coverage at an affordable cost?
If any of you have additional suggestions for questions, please post. I don’t recall a Blue Dog stink over the TARP bill–seems like this fiscal conservatism has taken on a new degree of zeal only in connection with health care reform (and I know Ross has gleefully accepted a lot of health industry contributions, so this screams quid pro quo).
Yes. I went back to the second tape: he stated that his Medicare recipients have to wait now three months to get to see a doctor (a lie?) and that he could only imagine how long they will have to wait if a public option were opened up and all these new folks expected care. This is the fear mongering about medicine as a ’scarce’ resource and his audience are older Medicare users and people with existing insurance policies.
I especially like your third question. It should be posed to every member of congress.
Ross, Lincoln and Pryor (Probably Blue Dog Berry too) are all connected at the hip with big insurance and the Third Way.
The Third Way invented “trigger”.
Talk about rationing. Maybe if more people in his district had a means of paying for health care it would attract more doctors. A market solution to lengthy waits?
I thought Mike Stark’s street theatre like all street theatry added very little to issue of health care. I wish the self-styled “reporters” would learn that reporting is reporting and that accusation, and blaming are not part of reporting. Secondly, legislation is a process. Things eb and flow in the legislative process. Stark suggested that if he were leader then he would not fund anything in Ross’s district. Mr. Stark that was brilliant. You just told every congressman that it is okay to withhold support for healthcare reform until they get their pork projects funded. There was a reason Dana Bash was asking the questions and Mike Stark was engaging he theatrics.
Dana Bash wasn’t asking tough questions. She was merely Ross’s fluffer.
You see that smug look on his face!!? What a piece of work! Dana too…
What value do health insurance companies add to patient care?
Bullseye.
Ross admitted, our workforce’s needs are not met by the health insurance oligolpoly. An ailing and untreated segment of the workforce translates into huge losses in productivity.
This is exactly the point, we have to do the heavy lifting because CNN won’t. We won’t get invited to the parties, but at least we’ll be able to show the people the condescenion the political class feels toward us and our right to have information.
Speaker Pelosi has posted on her site under the press release area for July 18,2009 a confirmation of the new CBO score that yields a surplus.
Uh, who else besides employers does he think should be doing that?
We seem to have almost enough doctors & nurses now. Does he think the number of illnesses & accidents is suddenly going to increase if there are more insured people?
Oh, I get it. He KNOWS there are people who now don’t have insurance (and therefore care) who would begin to go see doctors. Does he really think that waiting lines for those folks are worse than not being cared for at all?
Of course, as the demand for care increases the supply of doctors & nurses would have to be increased through more open med school slots. And that would mean more jobs and better pay for a bunch of people. That’s good.
In all cases it’s better to let more people receive care, good primary physician care as well as lower cost, than to let them be uninsured and uncared for as well as only having ER care at high prices.
He seems to be ignoring the fact that newly insured people will be able to get care and are VERY LIKELY to be grateful to him forever. They would probably elect him to any office he wants.
I guess he isn’t all that interested in re-election.
Greg Peters at Suspect Device has a great cartoon up on the subject of health care reform and the need for a real public option … from a very personal point of view.
Doesn’t it work like this.. Dana Bash interviews a number of people, then goes on the Situation Room later, and just rehashes what the general mood politically is out there. She’s not really there to discuss the issue, she’s there to feel out the politics of the issue. And that’s what CNN, MSNBC, FOX, are all about, politics. I’m so bored with it, just going over the politics of an issue is not enough, not for an issue as important as this. I can’t even watch CNN/MSNBC at all, I think people shouldn’t dignify the nonsense that is on those channels with viewership. They should be boycotted. If I was Michael Moore, I would make a documentary about how the media fails us on so many levels and in turn contributes to snakes like that d-bag Mike Ross able to hold office. Amazing.
Also – how about a campaign encouraging people to go to emergency rooms for health care until a public option is a reality in this country.
Seems irresponsible, but I’m sick of this pussyfooting around. Lets get 60’s radical style on this.
They have amendments that “trigger” a public option, and they have amendments the “trigger” the end of the public option. Seems like they’re awfully eager to have a trigger to pull.
Welcome.
note firedog EurekaSprings upthread. mebbe you could click on his name, see if you two can work on some in-district mischief together :D
and yes – so far this cycle, opensecrets.org has “health professionals” as his largest sector of contributors at $31k
oh, and one more thing –
Nate Silver hints at Ross’s fate – contained in a post about Blew Dogs and their uninsured constituents (Ross’s district has 21.8% uninsured, the congressional median is 14.6%)
really Mike, ya wanna bet against Nate ?
Great, Red. Please ask staff when Mr. Ross will start answering questions from real journalists.