Comments on: AFSCME and HCAN Go After Blue Dogs On Health Reform http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/17/ascfme-and-hcan-goes-after-blue-dogs-on-health-reform/ Politics for liberal newsgeeks Sat, 18 Feb 2012 01:04:53 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: hipparchia http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/17/ascfme-and-hcan-goes-after-blue-dogs-on-health-reform/#comment-32725 hipparchia Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:56:33 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/17/ascfme-and-hcan-goes-after-blue-dogs-on-health-reform/#comment-32725 <p>i’ve been slogging through reading all the bills, because that’s one of the things i’ve been most interested in. i haven’t found anything in any of the bills yet, house or senate, that would keep the insurance industry from delaying/denying care. the no recissions / no pre-existing conditions / no yearly or lifetime caps requirements are good, but we’re still going to get lousy <em>care</em> if the payers can continue to deny, deny, deny, delay, delay, delay.</p> i’ve been slogging through reading all the bills, because that’s one of the things i’ve been most interested in. i haven’t found anything in any of the bills yet, house or senate, that would keep the insurance industry from delaying/denying care. the no recissions / no pre-existing conditions / no yearly or lifetime caps requirements are good, but we’re still going to get lousy care if the payers can continue to deny, deny, deny, delay, delay, delay.

]]> By: mela http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/17/ascfme-and-hcan-goes-after-blue-dogs-on-health-reform/#comment-32687 mela Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:25:15 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/17/ascfme-and-hcan-goes-after-blue-dogs-on-health-reform/#comment-32687 <p>We cant let these bastards destroy this chance to institute a Public Option. The insurance companies are drooling at the idea of having 50 million new customers to exploit. The Blue Dogs will keep us forever in the toilet. Time to move to France.</p> We cant let these bastards destroy this chance to institute a Public Option. The insurance companies are drooling at the idea of having 50 million new customers to exploit. The Blue Dogs will keep us forever in the toilet. Time to move to France.

]]> By: andreams http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/17/ascfme-and-hcan-goes-after-blue-dogs-on-health-reform/#comment-32683 andreams Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:00:18 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/17/ascfme-and-hcan-goes-after-blue-dogs-on-health-reform/#comment-32683 <p>One has to assume that these dogs are afraid they’ll get voted out if they support a “liberal” plan. Do they really think the repubs will go easy on them in the next election cycle? They’ll be painted as tax and spend liberals even if they vote with the repubs 100% of the time. Let’s hope they wake up and realize we elected a Dem for president and they’re supposed to be members of his Party.</p> <p>I’ve been calling my representative and senator every day since this started and I’ll continue until this succeeds. If it doesn’t pass, I’ll still be calling each and every day, just a diffent message.</p> One has to assume that these dogs are afraid they’ll get voted out if they support a “liberal” plan. Do they really think the repubs will go easy on them in the next election cycle? They’ll be painted as tax and spend liberals even if they vote with the repubs 100% of the time. Let’s hope they wake up and realize we elected a Dem for president and they’re supposed to be members of his Party.

I’ve been calling my representative and senator every day since this started and I’ll continue until this succeeds. If it doesn’t pass, I’ll still be calling each and every day, just a diffent message.

]]> By: TomThumb http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/17/ascfme-and-hcan-goes-after-blue-dogs-on-health-reform/#comment-32679 TomThumb Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:56:37 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/17/ascfme-and-hcan-goes-after-blue-dogs-on-health-reform/#comment-32679 <p>These Democrats voted against the House bill in committees this week:</p> <p>Jason Altmire, Pennsylvania<br /> Jaren Polis, Colorado<br /> Dana Titus, Nevada</p> <p>Ron Kind, Wisconsin<br /> Earl Pomeroy, North Dakota<br /> John Tanner, Tennessee</p> These Democrats voted against the House bill in committees this week:

Jason Altmire, Pennsylvania
Jaren Polis, Colorado
Dana Titus, Nevada

Ron Kind, Wisconsin
Earl Pomeroy, North Dakota
John Tanner, Tennessee

]]> By: selise http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/17/ascfme-and-hcan-goes-after-blue-dogs-on-health-reform/#comment-32678 selise Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:52:53 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/17/ascfme-and-hcan-goes-after-blue-dogs-on-health-reform/#comment-32678 <p>more here from dean baker (2008 article)</p> <p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/16/healthinsurance.healthcare?gusrc=rss&feed=global" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/comm.....eed=global</a></p> <blockquote><p>The lack of transparency in the US healthcare industry means insurance companies can abuse patients by denying their claims</p></blockquote> more here from dean baker (2008 article)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comm…..eed=global

The lack of transparency in the US healthcare industry means insurance companies can abuse patients by denying their claims

]]> By: nrafter530 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/17/ascfme-and-hcan-goes-after-blue-dogs-on-health-reform/#comment-32677 nrafter530 Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:48:52 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/17/ascfme-and-hcan-goes-after-blue-dogs-on-health-reform/#comment-32677 <p>It’s not in the top 10 wealthiest, but fairly wealthy nevertheless.</p> <p>Virginia-11 and California-14 (Connolly and Eshoo) are the wealthiest CD’s represented by Dems…watch what they do</p> It’s not in the top 10 wealthiest, but fairly wealthy nevertheless.

Virginia-11 and California-14 (Connolly and Eshoo) are the wealthiest CD’s represented by Dems…watch what they do

]]> By: wmd1961 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/17/ascfme-and-hcan-goes-after-blue-dogs-on-health-reform/#comment-32676 wmd1961 Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:47:04 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/17/ascfme-and-hcan-goes-after-blue-dogs-on-health-reform/#comment-32676 <p>I talked with one of my sisters yesterday about healthcare reform. She’s a former MD, worked for a health insurance company at one point in her career. She had a recollection about a child dying from an abcessed tooth in the Washington DC area. A quick search found him - <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/02/AR2007030200827.html" rel="nofollow">Deamonte Driver</a>.</p> <p>I tried to light a fire under her to talk with non-voting representative Eleanor Holmes Norton and her former representative Capuano and Senator Kerry (she moved from MA to DC in 2001, still is licensed to practice medicine in MA).</p> I talked with one of my sisters yesterday about healthcare reform. She’s a former MD, worked for a health insurance company at one point in her career. She had a recollection about a child dying from an abcessed tooth in the Washington DC area. A quick search found him – Deamonte Driver.

I tried to light a fire under her to talk with non-voting representative Eleanor Holmes Norton and her former representative Capuano and Senator Kerry (she moved from MA to DC in 2001, still is licensed to practice medicine in MA).

]]> By: selise http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/17/ascfme-and-hcan-goes-after-blue-dogs-on-health-reform/#comment-32675 selise Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:12:11 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/17/ascfme-and-hcan-goes-after-blue-dogs-on-health-reform/#comment-32675 <p>thanks for the reply!</p> <p>that’s the only part i know about too.</p> <p>since denial of coverage is part of the business model — it’s one of the ways insurance companies “compete,” i was hoping there was something addressing the issue in the legislation. haven’t seen anything, but then, i’ve only read a very small fraction of the bills.</p> thanks for the reply!

that’s the only part i know about too.

since denial of coverage is part of the business model — it’s one of the ways insurance companies “compete,” i was hoping there was something addressing the issue in the legislation. haven’t seen anything, but then, i’ve only read a very small fraction of the bills.

]]> By: dakine01 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/17/ascfme-and-hcan-goes-after-blue-dogs-on-health-reform/#comment-32674 dakine01 Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:03:04 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/17/ascfme-and-hcan-goes-after-blue-dogs-on-health-reform/#comment-32674 <p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/18/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-andrea-batista-schlesinger-the-death-of-why/" rel="nofollow">Book Salon up at the Mothership</a> with Andrea Batista Schlesinger’s <i>The Death of Why?</i> hosted by Mark Bauerlein</p> Book Salon up at the Mothership with Andrea Batista Schlesinger’s The Death of Why? hosted by Mark Bauerlein

]]> By: Twain http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/17/ascfme-and-hcan-goes-after-blue-dogs-on-health-reform/#comment-32673 Twain Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:00:38 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/17/ascfme-and-hcan-goes-after-blue-dogs-on-health-reform/#comment-32673 <p>The only thing I know is that they at first said the treatment was “experimental” and after their offices got picketed they agreed to pay but it was too late. B*stards - they let a 17 year old die.</p> The only thing I know is that they at first said the treatment was “experimental” and after their offices got picketed they agreed to pay but it was too late. B*stards – they let a 17 year old die.

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