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	<title>Comments on: LIVEBLOG Alert: Education and Labor Committee Mark-up Going On</title>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/liveblog-alert-education-and-labor-committee-mark-up-going-on/#comment-32255</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m not sure I’ll be awake at 9:15.  Who can monitor the amendment votes?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m not sure I’ll be awake at 9:15.  Who can monitor the amendment votes?</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/liveblog-alert-education-and-labor-committee-mark-up-going-on/#comment-32254</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strike&gt;Some members away. Discussion about taking vote now, for those who are there, and leaving the vote open for those returning at 9:15 AM.&lt;/strike&gt; Amendment Votes Scheduled to be conducted at 9:15.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strike>Some members away. Discussion about taking vote now, for those who are there, and leaving the vote open for those returning at 9:15 AM.</strike> Amendment Votes Scheduled to be conducted at 9:15.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/liveblog-alert-education-and-labor-committee-mark-up-going-on/#comment-32253</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LAST AMENDMENT!!! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Congresswoman McMorris Rodgers (R-WA)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Exempt Native Indian Tribal Nations.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chair: we oppose at this time for this reason: Tribal leaders want to be included in the same way a state or local government are included.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
VOTE&lt;/strong&gt; - &lt;strong&gt;NO’s have it. Amendment not adopted. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LAST AMENDMENT!!! </p>
<p><strong></strong><strong>Congresswoman McMorris Rodgers (R-WA)</strong></p>
<p><strong>Exempt Native Indian Tribal Nations.</strong></p>
<p>Chair: we oppose at this time for this reason: Tribal leaders want to be included in the same way a state or local government are included.<br /><strong><br />
VOTE</strong> &#8211; <strong>NO’s have it. Amendment not adopted. </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/liveblog-alert-education-and-labor-committee-mark-up-going-on/#comment-32252</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Dr. David Price (D-NC)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;not clear but here goes: medicare patients who attempt to receive care outside medicare for procedure offered by medicare is illegal. this plan has same provision. this amendment would strike the provision that prohibits patient to do this under the public option. don’t define participating and non-participating physicians. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;with medicare we don’t allow the patient to pay above the regulated rate. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;VOTE &lt;/strong&gt;- No’s have it - &lt;strong&gt;WILL HAVE A RECORDED VOTE&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Dr. David Price (D-NC)</strong></p>
<p>not clear but here goes: medicare patients who attempt to receive care outside medicare for procedure offered by medicare is illegal. this plan has same provision. this amendment would strike the provision that prohibits patient to do this under the public option. don’t define participating and non-participating physicians. </p>
<p>with medicare we don’t allow the patient to pay above the regulated rate. </p>
<p><strong>VOTE </strong>- No’s have it &#8211; <strong>WILL HAVE A RECORDED VOTE</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/liveblog-alert-education-and-labor-committee-mark-up-going-on/#comment-32251</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Dr. David Price (D-NC)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;defined contribution and ownership of the health insurance policy&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In a group health plan, if employer and employee // Chair: questions this would offer up the a defined contribution account rather than a defined benefit account //  Individual gets ownership of their health insurance policy. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;VOTE&lt;/strong&gt; - NO’s have it - &lt;strong&gt;WILL HAVE A RECORDED VOTE&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Dr. David Price (D-NC)</strong></p>
<p><strong>defined contribution and ownership of the health insurance policy</strong></p>
<p>In a group health plan, if employer and employee // Chair: questions this would offer up the a defined contribution account rather than a defined benefit account //  Individual gets ownership of their health insurance policy. </p>
<p><strong>VOTE</strong> &#8211; NO’s have it &#8211; <strong>WILL HAVE A RECORDED VOTE</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/liveblog-alert-education-and-labor-committee-mark-up-going-on/#comment-32250</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Mr Joe Wilson (R-SC)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Elected Federal officials must forgo their existing plan and subscribe to big guv’mint healthcare. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;New plan will destroy private healthcare contrary to Obama’s promise.   Guv’mint takeover of healthcare.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chair disagrees with characterization them moves to accept amendment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;VOTE - AYE’s have it.&lt;/strong&gt;  AMENDMENT ACCEPTED&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Mr Joe Wilson (R-SC)</strong></p>
<p><strong>Elected Federal officials must forgo their existing plan and subscribe to big guv’mint healthcare. </strong></p>
<p>New plan will destroy private healthcare contrary to Obama’s promise.   Guv’mint takeover of healthcare.</p>
<p>Chair disagrees with characterization them moves to accept amendment.</p>
<p><strong>VOTE &#8211; AYE’s have it.</strong>  AMENDMENT ACCEPTED</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/liveblog-alert-education-and-labor-committee-mark-up-going-on/#comment-32249</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Mr Castle (R-DE)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Prevention and Wellness Programs&lt;/strong&gt;.  Smoking Cessation under group health plan. Health risk assessment.  Greater incentive for employers to provide Prevention and Wellness.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Premium discrimination (really?? or incentive for those who can lower their cost by being healthier) based on participation in wellness programs - smoking cessation.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chair: people w/ disabilities or pre-existing condition should not pay a higher premium b/c they cant participate. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;AMENDMENT WITHDRAWN&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Mr Castle (R-DE)</strong></p>
<p><strong><br />
Prevention and Wellness Programs</strong>.  Smoking Cessation under group health plan. Health risk assessment.  Greater incentive for employers to provide Prevention and Wellness.</p>
<p>Premium discrimination (really?? or incentive for those who can lower their cost by being healthier) based on participation in wellness programs &#8211; smoking cessation.  </p>
<p>Chair: people w/ disabilities or pre-existing condition should not pay a higher premium b/c they cant participate. </p>
<p><strong>AMENDMENT WITHDRAWN</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/liveblog-alert-education-and-labor-committee-mark-up-going-on/#comment-32248</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Mr Buck McKeon (R-CA)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Allow individuals to join a &lt;strong&gt; national association health plans&lt;/strong&gt;, AHP (across state lines). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unions have this already. Honeywell. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chair and Mr.Wu oppose amendment. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mr Sestak - likes the concept. is it mandated that pool of small companies will have to meet minimum standards in the bill? Are you open to it if it did meet standards? such as pre-conditions?  McKeon, no.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chair prefers exchange mechanism to aggregate purchasing power and discounts. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Someone gets a lot of money from realtors. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;VOTE&lt;/strong&gt; No’s have it &lt;strong&gt;THERE WILL BE A RECORDED VOTE&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Mr Buck McKeon (R-CA)</strong></p>
<p>Allow individuals to join a <strong> national association health plans</strong>, AHP (across state lines). </p>
<p>Unions have this already. Honeywell. </p>
<p>Chair and Mr.Wu oppose amendment. </p>
<p>Mr Sestak &#8211; likes the concept. is it mandated that pool of small companies will have to meet minimum standards in the bill? Are you open to it if it did meet standards? such as pre-conditions?  McKeon, no.</p>
<p>Chair prefers exchange mechanism to aggregate purchasing power and discounts. </p>
<p>Someone gets a lot of money from realtors. </p>
<p><strong>VOTE</strong> No’s have it <strong>THERE WILL BE A RECORDED VOTE</strong>.</p>
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		<title>By: Needlehawk</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/liveblog-alert-education-and-labor-committee-mark-up-going-on/#comment-32247</link>
		<dc:creator>Needlehawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just got sound back!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got sound back!</p>
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		<title>By: Needlehawk</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/liveblog-alert-education-and-labor-committee-mark-up-going-on/#comment-32246</link>
		<dc:creator>Needlehawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I also have no sound :(&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have no sound :(</p>
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