Get a load of the hard-right Taliban Republican congresscritter Roy Blunt telling a Missouri radio audience why he thinks we should just let our veterans rot in the streets (and grandma, too):
BLUNT: Well, you could certainly argue that government should have never have gotten in the health care business, and that might have been the best argument of all, to figure out how people could have had more access to a competitive marketplace.
Government did get into the health care business in a big way in 1965 with Medicare, and later with Medicaid, and government already distorts the marketplace.
A government competitor would drive all the other competitors away. What we should be doing is creating more competition. One of the reasons the marketplace doesn’t work the way it should work right now is we really don’t have the competitive marketplace that I’d like to see put in place.
I’d like to see people have many more options, instead of fewer options. The option, for instance, to continue to get insurance at work, but also take that same tax benefit and use it on their own and use it in the new marketplace that Republicans advocate…
Let’s address this glurge in reverse order.
First off, "more choices" is a joke when you can’t afford any of them. As Christy points out, Republican and insurance-lobby whinings about "rationing" sound particularly silly when you realize that health care already is being rationed by a system that makes it impossible for anyone but the rich to take full advantage of the choices it provides.
Second off, notice that Blunt — or rather, the insurance-industry lobbyists who put the words in his mouth — fears Adam Smith’s legendary "invisible hand". If the whole point of the Ayn-Rand-fetish "government is bad" capitalism he and his patrons publicly tout is that the strong and good succeed over the weak and not so good, then why fear testing a government health plan? (President Obama made that very point a few weeks ago, by the way.) Why should Blunt fear testing the idea that the government can do a better overall job with health care than can the corporate entities that fund his campaigns?
Because Blunt knows that we’ve already tested this idea — and it works. The Veterans Health Administration, one of the government health care agencies he wishes never existed, now runs the best hospital network in the country — and at far less overall expense than its private-industry competition. (Notice that Blunt’s main attack on these entities has nothing to do with the quality of care that they give — it’s all about their picking on poor widdle private industry. Bleargh.)
Blunt isn’t alone in his hatred for the Veterans Health Adminstration — in fact, his position is the default one among Republicans on Capitol Hill, which is why John Boehner picked him to chair the House GOP Task Force on Health Care. And the GOP’s presidential nominee in 2008, Arizona’s own Senator John McCain, sold out the vets he claims to love so much by doing his damndest to kill the VA — which is doubly ironic, considering how much VA doctors and staff helped him during the years following his return from the POW camp.
I think these guys need some vets and grandmas camping out in front of their offices, don’t you?





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“. . .I’d like to see people have many more options, instead of fewer options. The option, for instance, to continue to get insurance at work, but also take that same tax benefit and use it on their own and use it in the new marketplace that Republicans advocate…”
The new marketplace that will not be able to deny coverage for “pre-existing conditions” and all that? Looking forward to seeing that, dood.
Single-payer is not synonymous with single provider. If it’s true the VA runs the best hospitals in the country, it’s a sad statement for the rest. Its problems are not endemic but created by tax-cutting and middle-class hating dogs of all colors who want to drown the government in a bathtub except the part that wages war and enriches profiteers.
Don’t confuse the VA system with DoD-run hospitals like Walter Reed. The DoD facilities suffer all the things you describe, yet the VA ones are excellent and have been since Bill Clinton fixed them up over a decade ago:
Oh, okay. But I remember problems owing to funding in more recent times at selected hospitals, e.g., the one in Martinsburg, WV. Everyone in the region flees to the nearby Winchester Medical Center multiplex, if they can. Maybe they’re missing out on something good at the VA hospital. There are a lot of vets and grandmas in the area, to be sure.
A government competitor would drive all the other competitors away.
Like FHA loans drove away private loans? Like Social Security drove away private pensions? Like the Postal Service drove away UPS and FedEx?
Or like here in NC, UNC drove away Duke?
Made a point to generate some click revenue from the pro-life banner ad
Hi PW. What’s the latest on the Franken-Coleman race?
*slapping self on head, remembering that it’s finally over*
Coleman is now paying for his overrated health care like everyone else. :-P
“I’d like to see people have many more options, instead of fewer options.”
Let’s see now – If my employer has a health insurance plan, now…I have the option of either taking it (if I can afford it and many people cannot afford to take their company’s health insurance if they need family coverage)…or not. OK..so I get two options.
If there is a public option, then I get…three options: take the company one..don’t take any at all..or take the public one.
If my employer decides to get rid of health insurance because he can’t afford it, then if there is the public option, at least I have that available to me.
Blunt is a fool and another exponent of the ‘I’ve got mine; screw you’ school.
If the republicans were not sucking on the teat of the health insurance-company lobbyists, they might realize how bad they sound to the average American. I wonder how their positions would play if their actual constituents were somehow made to “get” what their elected representative were saying about them… that they’d prefer to have no option but the one offered by their lobbyist paymeisters.
If a small or medium sized business could keep its doors open because it was not having to make health care payments, if working folks could get to see a doctor outside an emergency room and get preventative or other care in their districts without shelling out huge co-pays and deductibles, maybe knowing that their “representative” was more interested in getting good lunches for free at the Old Ebbit Grille than their care, they might be willing to toss them (starting with Roy Blunt?) out on their collective asses.
It’s time to start concentrating on that message along with Jane’s sensational Whip Count… hey MoveOn, you listening?
Heh. Seems like just desserts.
Fixed it for you.
What I find a bit astonishing is that, knowing they are under heavy scrutiny, medical insurance companies are still raising rates as fast as they can, instead of laying low for awhile. Kinda like banksters doubling down before the fall. Shows how much condifence they have that the pols will bail them out.
this is GREAT
ORDER ME100 T SHIRTS that say
ROY BLUNT SEZ Medicare and Medicaid should have NEVER been CREATED…I FOR ONE WILL WEAR IT everywhere
Thanks, eCAHN… you got it exactly right. My oversight.
time for ROY to give up ALL HIS GOVERNMENT PERKS….
precisely…
no…once elected,you have healthcare forlife,and pension to boot
guess im chatting with self tonite
1. have employer based insurance now while on disability
2. can’t buy a policy on the open market….some of us have pre-existing conditions…..
Va health care system, Tricare (military dependents & stateside stationed active military, Medicare and Medicaid are the “single payer” government run. And they are some of the most well run systems.
I guess Blunt and his buddies are never going to need Medicare. Or at least they think they’ll never need it. I have news for him … there are three hundred million of us who will need it.
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Time to pin this on the Republicans…
A huge part of the problem stems from the economic model which we are living. In it the working class is seen as producing a certain value for it’s labor and that will never change, so their standard of living is flat (when adjusted for inflation). This means that all new increases in productivity or ways of using capital which produce more income are assumed to be related to investment capital and all the rewards of that go to the top management and stockholders.
In other words, the rich get richer and the poor get nowhere.
The last couple of decades has seen an even more perverted version of that with the financial sector (mostly) and the health care/insurance sector getting all the profits. I mean ALL. It wasn’t long ago someone posted an article about how many companies in America which weren’t paying ANY taxes because they simply weren’t making profits. It was astounding by itself and I doubt anyone realized how it was possible. Now we know. All the profits were going to Wall St. and the health sector.
So, what are the effects of this model which are really giving us trouble?
First there are the obvious things which have been discussed for a long time: too much money in the political system gives the Rich disproportionate representation and the poor live on the edge and go bankrupt at a moment’s notice.
Well, another effect involves not just the Rich individuals (and their families), but the Corporations. Corporate wealth outstrips everything and when a business owner has a product he wants to make a lot of profits from, then he’s going to want to sell it to the government or corporations. Pricing it involves determining how much they have which they might consider parting with for this product. It isn’t related to the cost of production, only to what the market will pay.
But, what the gov’t and corporations might pay is much more than you or I could pay.
So, when you go on a trip and buy airline tickets or rent a car or hotel room or eat at a nice restaurant you’re going to have to work for a corporation and have an expense account since you will find it difficult, as an individual, to pay. They’re priced for a corporation to pay. Corporations have deep pockets.
In the health care area Repubs try to say it’s the jury awards which hit deep pockets and drive prices up. That’s been found to be negligible.
But, if you consider the difference between an individual paying for a doctor’s visit or for insurance versus a corporation’s ability to get group insurance rates then there is something to notice. Corporations have money, so how is an insurance company going to price a group plan for the corps employees? Naturally a large group would allow them to price it lower. But, they want to sock the corp for all the money in the world, so that just won’t do.
To price a corp group plan higher they have to price an individual plan much much much higher.
That makes individual insurance impossibly high. But, they don’t care since they get the corporate group plan deal and and get to charge very high rates. We pay about 20% (as a country) more than other places.
Then, on top of that, don’t pay doctors what they ask? Why? It forces doctors to charge higher rates, so that when they get back 85% (or whatever insurers pay these days) they end up with what they want. Why is that a problem?
Doctors get what they want, but the really high prices they have to charge allows insurers to tell customers that health care is more expensive than it really is. A little sleight of the hand and everything looks more expensive. Of course, they don’t tell you they’ll pocket 30% of that.
Competition in the business is important, but some of these other problems are clearly due to the disparity in wealth of corporations & the Rich and all the peons.
We must give ordinary people more wealth to at least provide them a shock absorber against sudden downturns. More fair would be to let their wealth grow as the nation’s grows. Health care reform is just the first step in correcting the system.
If we can hitch more people’s wagons to the financial growth of the country, then we might close the gap without having to increase taxes punitively. That’s why I also recommend (after the health reform is absorbed into the system) that everyone should have savings accounts which accumulate automatically. It isn’t just for retirement or to enable people to invest, it’s to let them sequester more wealth from the everyday economy the way Rich people do — put it into investments for any eventuality.
Healthcare reform.
Financial sector reform.
Energy Green revolution.
Perhaps tax reform.
Corp executive pay reform.
Universal savings/investment accounts.
Easier unionization.
Fair international trade.
There’s a lot to do.
The government has been in the health care business since the VA opened the first hospital . Medicare is an insurance business . Not a health care business and REAL universal health care is what the VA is . Instead of the government being in the insurance business it should expand the VA facilities to treat all Americans thereby competing with the health care providers that are the real cause of the escalating costs . A public option (insurance) means health care providers can continue with business as usual (charge escalations). The VA expansion to treat all Americans would eliminate all middle men insurance including Medicare and thousands of lobbyist in Washington . Insurance is an unnecessary leech which only adds to all costs in every part of American life .
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/jour…..ofile.html
Please see this and comment , interviw him . .IF it hasn’t been covered before.
I have no idea how to or I would.
Thanks /AJ
The reality is that the Republican party in its heart of hearts is still opposed to the New Deal