Another 22 members of the House, including some moderates, sent a letter yesterday to Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Hoyer to express their "strong desire to see a robust public health insurance option" in the health reform bill.
The members called the public option "essential if we are to provide more choice for individuals and businesses and if we are serious about lowering costs for both."
The letter contains most of the arguments in favor of a public option we’ve seen elsewhere: providing both competition and "a necessary benchmark" for how we want health insurers to function or lose market share.
But the letter focuses on how competitive the public option might be. The members agree with proposals for a "level playing field" — the devil in the details design battles will occur there. For example, these members want the public plan to pay providers more than Medicare payment rates, whereas the current Tri-Committee House bill would allow the public plan to at least start with Medicare payment rates to make it less costly.
Why does this matter? To assure the public plan’s competitiveness, the members urge that the public plan have access to strong provider networks, and they apparently believe you can’t get that if you don’t pay more than Medicare pays:
But a level playing field that the public option must have access to a provider network that will allow it to compete, from the beginning, with private insurers. Without some connection to an established provider network, such as Medicare, a public option will never be able to offer real choice to businesses and individual consumers.
You’ll recall that one of the AMA concerns about a public plan option was that doctors and other health providers not be required to offer care to patients in the public plan if they chose not to. But public plan advocates have argued that if providers want to retain practices based on Medicare patients, then those providers should also accept public plan patients.
The 22 Congresspeople are thus weighing in on this debate on the side of giving public plan patients access to provider networks the same as, or comparable to, the provided networks that now accept Medicare patients, but paying them more. This is important, because without strong provider networks, some patients might never choose the public plan, but they might be more expensive.
This is where the horse trading will pay off or not. Doctors and hospitals reluctant to take on public plan patients will want assurances they won’t be bound by Medicare’s lower payment rates. In the meantime, WH Budget Director Orszag is pushing Congress to assume lower Medicare payments in the future for treating uninsured patients since, the theory goes, many more people will be insured. And the Finance Committee is looking for more Medicare savings to keep the budget impacts below some arbitrary figure, like $1 trillion.
At the same time Orszag is telling Congress it’s not really reforming the system unless it changes not just how much we pay but what we pay for. That issue is about paying for quality care and better outcomes rather than just the quantity of treatments under a fee-for-service regime.
Those are huge changes and huge dollars at stake for the industry, and we can see both Orszag’s letter and the letter from House Dems as pushing different pieces of how those dollars get allocated. Stay tuned.





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Thank you for the post, Scarecrow.
I’m sorry but I must go O/T.
Jane on MSNBC just now with Shuster and some fucking idiot from Clownhall. Jane’s passion and indignation front and center. Fabulous.
Please know that we are out here working the phone and emails also.
Thanks FDL and keep up the great work.
hey firedogs -
grab those 22 names off that letter and TWITTERBOMB THEM !!
Easy to do and you can tweet from your pc – don’t have to worry about using your ‘minutes’ if you’re on one of those monthly minute plans
Go ‘Dogs Go !
Thanks Scarecrow for the horsetrading insights – much appreciated
Typo [I assume you can correct?]:
Yup. If a physician is able to help a patient lose unhealthy weight, or become more mobile and independent, those cost-effective ‘medical costs’ should be paid.
The ‘wellness incentives’ are key to making people feel better about health care.
When I hear “level playing field” I hear “crippled public option.”
A public plan that has to compete without undercutting the wasteful and fraudulent private insurance scams won’t be a real option, will it?
Is this wrong?
I do not understand why people in Congress seem to feel that we are obliged to make sure the “health care” industry makes lots of money. If they can’t compete they can go do something else. A pox on them.
Campaign contributions. If the industry goes belly up so do all those millions in industry
bribescampaign contributions, golf outings, brothel hopping, escort services, etc.If medical providers can freeze out public plan patients by not accepting the plan’s plans, that form of public plan would be DOA.
The worst option would be to legislate it, then watch it swirl down the drain and hand to the GOP a Brooksian claim that such social legislation “never works”.
Well, no, they don’t work when they are strangled before birth.
First link goes to Google. It would be interesting to know how their letter asking for equal access for public plan patients stacks up against the Blue Dogs letter asking for a trigger option and pay-go financing. Neither letter is available to me.
Life is the foremost of all treasures. It is expounded that even the treasures of the entire major world system cannot equal the value of one’s body and life. Even the treasures that fill the major world system are no substitute for life.
Public Option
Stop killing people with USA war machine
Do not be fooled by the rhetoric being bantered around about “leveling the playing field”. What no one is willing to discuss is the loss og over 100,000 health care jobs nationally with this reform package!
My company is already seeing the effects. At my web site, http://www.gorillamedicalsales.com , a job board for medical device sales representatives and pharmaceutical sales representatives to seek new employment, we have seen medical supply companies leave vacant sales territories unfilled as they position themselves for the new health care environment.
What do you mean by the “first link”? The 22-member letter is in the first link of the post. Do you mean something else?
I haven’t seen the second letter from Blue Dogs. This AP article mentions it.
yes. thanks. fixed.
OUr nation has lost tens of millions of jobs since the 90’s.
And lost millions of jobs since ‘04 or so, when the recession REALLY started here in CA . . .
To lose 100,000 sales jobs that amount to pretty much lobby efforts to the medical fields, filled with perks, graft, bonuses, and more for the med practitioners from the companies sending out their troops to lobby . . . that don’t seem like such a big loss to me. Like dinosaurs, med sales are a thing of the past.
You’ll all have to do what the rest of the nation has had to do for two decades and more. Re-educate, retrain and accept less money.
Welcome to the masses, the country club is slowly collapsing unto itself.
Sorry if that all seems harshly put on my part . . . but reality begins to intrude upon those who never thought it would happen to them . . . . be alert. We’re all ‘lerts, now.
I got the same thing. Apparently have to join Google. I didn’t.
Ok, I understand you don’t get the doc in the first link. I do. We’re working on a fix.
What do you see here:
http://docs.google.com/gview?a…..tion%2Fpdf
exactly, just like the “doughnut hole” gaping in Medicare’s Rx payment plan–and the hamstrings preventing negotiation for better drug prices; all in the name of not hampering the private sector.
Yep. One of Google’s entries to compete with M$ on the web. Google’s web version of M$ Word. I didn’t either. It’ll pop up somewhere else.
Log In/Register page.
While listening to HELP hearings on c-span, one argument I’ve heard repeated is that Medicare underpays providers for costs of treatments, by 10-15% or so, which results in “cost shifting” by providers to private insurers, thus raising the premiums for private insurance. The companion argument is that 40% or so of providers will no longer accept Medicare patients. I have no idea whether either argument is true and no clue how to research it. Is this what is meant by “level playing field”, that the public option should pay providers as much as private insurers? Or what?
I don’t know the percentages, but it is common knowledge (or maybe conventional wisdom) that underpsayments, from Medicare or private insurers, is shifted to uninsured patients. From Medicare/Medicaid to insured patients, logical.
I think we’re trying to save this as a pdf file and give that link. We have smart people working on this.
try now sd – i think the backstage wizs have fixed it
Coupla points:
1. Once you’re in Medicare or any type of single-payer system, then from the payer’s point of view, this is like cost-of-service utility regulation. In a regulatory scheme, markets don’t set the prices; regulators do, though they may resort to auctions or other market mechanisms to procure/price some elements. But the important point is that the regulators has a dual obligation.
One the one hand the regulator is trying to protect consumers; don’t allow prices above what is reasonable.
On the other hand, the regulator has to be fair to the supplier/provider. You have to cover their reasonably incurred costs, and that includes both fixed and variable costs, and profit — including the cost of capital.
So Medicare can’t just lower payments to please consumers; it has to set prices at levels that are sustainable. If current Medicare rates are too low to retain providers, then they may need to be raised.
2. Next problem is opportunity costs — what could the providers receive if they sold their services to another buyer — like the private insurers. So Medicare has to think about matching that, unless they think private insurers pay too much (see point 1). So are private insurer payments to providers too high? Since payments cut insurers’ profits, you’d think not. But if insurers can simply pass cost increase through in higher premiums, which is what they apparently have been doing, then there’s a problem in looking to private insurer payments to guide Medicare.
3. Enter the folks who think we pay for quantity and not quality and want to change the incentives. This is a new world, and neither the current private insurer payments or the Medicare payments are a good measure of what the right payment would be if we paid for quality/results and not quanity/fee for service.
This stuff makes my head hurt. It’s hard enough to explain it conceptually, but now think about Congress trying to put this in statutory language. Shudder.
Thank you for fixing the link. It’s now pdf.
Gotcha. Thanks.
This stuff makes my head hurt too. There are too many variables to keep in mind at the same time, and trying to balance them out is wrenching.
Thank you for advancing my/our understanding somewhat further.
One thing I try to keep in mind while listening to the sausage-making unfold is that we already spend almost 2x for health care than other countries, not all of them are single-payer, most of them are mixed public-private, but there are plenty of models out there to emulate. Constraints on profits seems to be the key to a workable system.
TomThumb: The link has been replaced, and it works for me now.
It competes in several ways:
not for profit
lower administration costs
It’s there in the Exchange with it’s own features, plans & prices.
Just the possibility that a customer *might* not like a for-profit plan wouldn’t worry the insurer if there’s no alternative the customer could move to. Just being there, even if it offered near identical features, would mean any for-profit insurer has to think twice about ticking off a customer.
So then, the simple thing is to pay what the doctors & hospitals ask and they won’t diss the public option.
Why?
If there will be more patients then will there not be more need for equipment and other products care-givers utilize?
I am a primary care physician. My *private* PPO insurance contracts reimburse me at 80%-90% of Medicare rates. This is assuming that the payment is not denied on some capricious technicality. For many vaccinations and injections they actually reimburse me less than it costs me to buy the vaccine. Their reasoning is that it forces me to be “cost-effective” and shop around for the cheapest supplies. The cheapest unit price is if you buy in bulk quantity, which 1) I can’t afford as a solo practitioner 2) I can’t use before the stock expires due the small size of my practice. And, as I’m sure that many of you health consumers out there can attest to, medications ain’t cheap! I can’t afford to subsidize the insurance companies’ greediness. The result is less access to needed services by my patients, Keep in mind too, that Medicare rates are set by Congress, and these rates have not increased over the past 10 years, and are every year threatened to be cut further. My practice is financially in dire straights because I can’t get reimbursed at a fair market rate. Supposedly, we have a shortage of primary care physicians in this country, a shortage which is projected to get very much worse. In any market besides health care, anyone who provides a scarce and essential commodity gets fairly reimbursed. Yet for the past 2 years I have been putting in 60 hours a week, and personally bringing home less than my plumber does. There is currently no competition in the health care market, as I discovered when I first tried to “negotiate” my insurance contracts. The contracts were on “take it or leave it” terms i.e. accept a fraction of Medicare or go “out-of-network” and see only uninsured or “cash-pay” patients. I welcome a public option. I am so tired of the insurance companies getting rich off the blood, sweat, and tears of patients and doctors.
Thanks for the clarity; I hope your voices will be heard…