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	<title>Comments on: Rep. Grijalva Alarmed by Rahm: &#8220;Trigger&#8221; is a &#8220;Non-Starter&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: LKN2</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/07/rep-grijalva-alarmed-by-rahm-trigger-is-a-non-starter/comment-page-1/#comment-30997</link>
		<dc:creator>LKN2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A mandate to purchase insurance from greedy, for profit companies without a viable public option is unacceptable.  Obama is a disappointment.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A mandate to purchase insurance from greedy, for profit companies without a viable public option is unacceptable.  Obama is a disappointment.</p>
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		<title>By: FormerFed</title>
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		<dc:creator>FormerFed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Grijalva is a good man. Luckily he is in a very safe district here in Tucson, but the Anglos in town hate him with a passion. (Well, not all of the Anglos, I am one among many who love the guy).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grijalva is a good man. Luckily he is in a very safe district here in Tucson, but the Anglos in town hate him with a passion. (Well, not all of the Anglos, I am one among many who love the guy).</p>
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		<title>By: cbl2</title>
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		<dc:creator>cbl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Congresswoman Woolsey tells Rahm What’s Up &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Emanuel Reassures Democrats on Public Insurance Option&lt;br /&gt;
By Steven T. Dennis&lt;br /&gt;
Roll Call Staff&lt;br /&gt;
July 7, 2009, 9:11 p.m.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Progressives Warn Obama Against Dropping Public Health Care Option&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel reassured House Democrats on Tuesday night that President Barack Obama strongly backs a government-run health insurance plan, seeking to quell a firestorm among liberals upset at Emanuel’s comments in the Wall Street Journal that suggested such a plan could be delayed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Progressive Caucus Co-Chairwoman Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.) warned Emanuel that he would lose the caucus’ votes if the White House compromised on the issue and included a “trigger” that could delay a public insurance plan indefinitely. The trigger idea is backed by conservative Democrats but is anathema to liberals.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“&lt;strong&gt;We have compromised enough, and we are not going to compromise on any kind of trigger game,” Woolsey said she told Emanuel. “People clapped all over the place. We mean it, and not just progressives.” &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;can’t wait to see if we get more Yes’s on the Pledge tomorrow -&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congresswoman Woolsey tells Rahm What’s Up </p>
<blockquote><p>Emanuel Reassures Democrats on Public Insurance Option<br />
By Steven T. Dennis<br />
Roll Call Staff<br />
July 7, 2009, 9:11 p.m.</p>
<p>Progressives Warn Obama Against Dropping Public Health Care Option</p>
<p>White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel reassured House Democrats on Tuesday night that President Barack Obama strongly backs a government-run health insurance plan, seeking to quell a firestorm among liberals upset at Emanuel’s comments in the Wall Street Journal that suggested such a plan could be delayed.</p>
<p>Progressive Caucus Co-Chairwoman Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.) warned Emanuel that he would lose the caucus’ votes if the White House compromised on the issue and included a “trigger” that could delay a public insurance plan indefinitely. The trigger idea is backed by conservative Democrats but is anathema to liberals.</p>
<p>“<strong>We have compromised enough, and we are not going to compromise on any kind of trigger game,” Woolsey said she told Emanuel. “People clapped all over the place. We mean it, and not just progressives.” </strong></p>
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<p>can’t wait to see if we get more Yes’s on the Pledge tomorrow -</p>
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		<title>By: Bluetoe2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bluetoe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Never refer to him by his name.  He should only be known as Tiny Dancer.  His credibility is in the crapper.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never refer to him by his name.  He should only be known as Tiny Dancer.  His credibility is in the crapper.</p>
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		<title>By: ralphbon</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralphbon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I would like to believe that such private negotiations are taking place, but the CPC remains an undisciplined group, and Grijalva — one of my heroes in the House — is engaging in a touch of bravado in hinting that the caucus will unite in opposition to anything short of its &lt;a href=&quot;http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/sections/prt_detail.cfm?itemID=420&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;published robustness criteria&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope I’m wrong, but from some communication I had with Darcy Burner, and from a recent comment of Jane’s, I now recognize that I’ve overestimated the caucus’s “message discipline.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Grijalva has taken Jane’s whip pledge, and if the CPC were as united and internally whipped as he implies, the number of signatories would be an order of magnitude greater than it is to date. (And Jane’s whip criteria are far more modest than the CPC’s robustness principles.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to believe that such private negotiations are taking place, but the CPC remains an undisciplined group, and Grijalva — one of my heroes in the House — is engaging in a touch of bravado in hinting that the caucus will unite in opposition to anything short of its <a href="http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/sections/prt_detail.cfm?itemID=420" rel="nofollow">published robustness criteria</a>. </p>
<p>I hope I’m wrong, but from some communication I had with Darcy Burner, and from a recent comment of Jane’s, I now recognize that I’ve overestimated the caucus’s “message discipline.”</p>
<p>Grijalva has taken Jane’s whip pledge, and if the CPC were as united and internally whipped as he implies, the number of signatories would be an order of magnitude greater than it is to date. (And Jane’s whip criteria are far more modest than the CPC’s robustness principles.)</p>
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		<title>By: lexrex</title>
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		<dc:creator>lexrex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The excerpt of the Grijalva letter highlighted above leaves out an important clue as to what has been going on behind the scenes. The complete sentence: “&lt;em&gt;As the CPC has repeatedly stated&lt;/em&gt;, its Members cannot support final passage of any health care reform bill that does not include a robust public plan option, akin to Medicare, operating alongside the private plans.” (Emphasis added.) Apparently, the CPC has been privately negotiating with the Administration. I have been met by silence when I ask my Rep. to declare her position by taking the pledge to vote no for any bill not including a public plan. By the CPC going public, we may be seeing an end to the silence.  Keep on putting pressure on your representatives.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The excerpt of the Grijalva letter highlighted above leaves out an important clue as to what has been going on behind the scenes. The complete sentence: “<em>As the CPC has repeatedly stated</em>, its Members cannot support final passage of any health care reform bill that does not include a robust public plan option, akin to Medicare, operating alongside the private plans.” (Emphasis added.) Apparently, the CPC has been privately negotiating with the Administration. I have been met by silence when I ask my Rep. to declare her position by taking the pledge to vote no for any bill not including a public plan. By the CPC going public, we may be seeing an end to the silence.  Keep on putting pressure on your representatives.</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/07/rep-grijalva-alarmed-by-rahm-trigger-is-a-non-starter/comment-page-1/#comment-30927</link>
		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe Harry read the blog FiveThirtyEight and realized that thanks to his complete lack of a Spine Roland Burris of Illinois and Blago fame has a better chance of getting reelected than the Dem Senate Majority leader.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;   Also if Harry loses next election we the Left will have a much bigger say in picking the new DEM Senate Majority Leader.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Harry read the blog FiveThirtyEight and realized that thanks to his complete lack of a Spine Roland Burris of Illinois and Blago fame has a better chance of getting reelected than the Dem Senate Majority leader.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/</a></p>
<p>   Also if Harry loses next election we the Left will have a much bigger say in picking the new DEM Senate Majority Leader.</p>
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		<title>By: Eureka Springs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eureka Springs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No. And even if they are, this is not at all the time to treat them as if it were true.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. And even if they are, this is not at all the time to treat them as if it were true.</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/07/rep-grijalva-alarmed-by-rahm-trigger-is-a-non-starter/comment-page-1/#comment-30925</link>
		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Reid is correct, the public will judge the Democratic majority on Keeping its word&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  Never thought I see those words but I guess unemployment  moving to 10% has scared Harry.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Reid is correct, the public will judge the Democratic majority on Keeping its word</p>
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<p>  Never thought I see those words but I guess unemployment  moving to 10% has scared Harry.</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/07/rep-grijalva-alarmed-by-rahm-trigger-is-a-non-starter/comment-page-1/#comment-30924</link>
		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When has anything Rahm has said or done helped Obama? Why did Clinton like Rahm I see no good qualities?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When has anything Rahm has said or done helped Obama? Why did Clinton like Rahm I see no good qualities?</p>
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