Obama couldn’t be more wrong. The GOP is irrelevant in the health care debate, except to the extent they get the cocktail weenie media to air their arguments. It is precisely the blue dog Democrats who are the threat to health care reform. I’ve never heard of any successful political strategy to not put pressure on the opposition.

Obama needs to learn that “each other” does not include DINO politicians who oppose reform important to democratic voters.

Obama needs to learn that “each other” does not include DINO politicians who oppose reform important to democratic voters.

Exactamundo. If they don’t want us having access to the kind of health insurance they already have, they aren’t an “each other.”

thank you DFA !!!

what’s it gonna be Move On ? fish or cut bait !

I left Moveon after the ‘betrayus’ boner when they wouldn’t even admit the error.

Sent money again. If they don’t stand firm here, I’m gone again.

Yeah, the Elected One needs to realize his base is not the effin Blue Dogs, who are probably pining for Bush so the can look less like what they are “republican lite”, and maintain their Dem caucus kabuki.

Obama leaves himself a huge hole in his base if he keeps ignoring the progressive agenda and remains fixated on this bipArtisan crapola. No threat, just fact. He needs to take a lesson from the r’s in party discipline, and kick some Blue Dog ass from the fabled Bully Pulpit.

Yup, yup and yup.

Would seem they are beginning to sweat a bit under the collar. All the more reason to keep the heat on. Obama’s misguided bipartisanship with an intransigent and far right ideological party is a losing proposition for his administration and the nation at large.

Thumbs up for DFA.

Finger up for Obama.

again I say to President Obama…

You asked us to push you.
We’re pushing.
Why are you pushing back?

There shouldn’t be conditions as to the type of criticism you are willing to accept, especially when the majority of the people are pushing in the same direction.

The people united will not be pushed around.

When this news first hit the web I got upset like everyone else did. I even left a few comments around the web to let the admin. know how I felt, but as I look a little longer at this issue it seems to me this is little more than Rahm and Barack trying to use the old GOP rule of speaking ill of another Democrat. Not that the Dems need any kind of party discipline if you know what I mean. ; )

from the WaPo article:

DeParle and White House deputy chief of staff Jim Messina have been in intense negotiations with hospital representatives in the hope of extracting guaranteed spending reductions from the industry

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fyi – Messina was Max Baucus longtime Chief of Staff

oxwhore

http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/6140

psssssssssssssssst Obie
weild that bully pulpit
at them not at US!

precisely!

Mary Landrieu has been skating on thin ice with many other Dems for quite some time. She always seems to be the fly in the ointment. She’ll be lucky if all she has to look forward to is negative ads by members of her own party but aimed at her. She needs to quit following the instructions of her corporate masters and finally start paying some attention to the voters who she works for.

Maybe her constituency is largely like-minded conservatives. But she does not appear to share the values or the goals, not to mention the means to getting there, of the larger Democratic party membership. The thing is, she’s only a Democrat when she wants something. Otherwise, she follows the money. She is not worth giving up on a public option, and the ads should not stop until she changes her mind about the need for a public option. That’s what protest and taking back your country is all about.

Good for DFA!

The WaPo report regarding “Obama’s concerns” was authored by Ceci Connolly. Remember that name, and take everything she authors with a grain of salt. In fact, treat her more as a source than a reporter, one who in fact requires second sourcing.

She is one of the infamous ’spite girls’ who practiced vendetta journalism against Al Gore during the 2000 campaign (another one was Kit Seelye of NYT). To learn more about her, do a search on Bob Somerby’s Daily Howler website, where he has been documenting her atrocities against truthful reporting since the late 90s (see here, for example). I don’t know if anyone has ever truly figured out what motivated the nastiness exhibited toward Gore by these Press Heathers, although speculation centers on passing along punishment for the real or imagined sins of The Clenis.

Note that there were also ’spite boyz’ as well, e.g., that Hardball wack-a-loon Tweety, who so often jackhammered into the our political conscience the lying memes issues by the likes of Connolly and Seelye. [I’m not even addressing Faux Newz; their behavior speaks for itself.]

{/rant}

..one more point while I’m still pissed off.

The next time someone on Wall St. complains about something a Democrat does be sure to smack them on the wrist too.

This is a major point of contention, particularly with Mary “Ethically Challenged” Landrieu. Perhaps if you looked at this issue from Main St.’s point of view you’d be tell Mary what to do and not the voters who elected you.

Doesn’t it make sense for Obama, if he needs to win over some Clinton Dems like Ben Nelson and Landrieu for big votes like healthcare, to publicly at least act like he’s trying to help them out? Good faith effort toward them and such, and at the same time Obama has also expressed dissatisfaction at how hard its been to work with many of these Clinton Dems..

For the 1000th time, Obama didn’t create this cesspool he’s operating within. He’s trying to change it and he’s already had some great success.

I’m actually all for going after the Clinton Dems. Have been myself since 1992 during the Dem primaries, and encourage DFA to keep it up. I’d be willing to bet that privately Obama is happy they’re doing it as well.

But not realizing what Obama’s comments are about, and using this as another opportunity to diminish support for Obama, right in the thick of perhaps the biggest battle we’ll have in our political lifetimes, is not helping any of our causes. In fact, the incessant Obama-bashing is hurting us all.

It’s clear he is the most Liberal President we’ve had in several decades, and the Clinton Dems are doing their best to stop true Liberal reforms from happening (Dianne Feinstein, anyone?). As far as Landrieu, Nelson, etc, I’d say Release the Hounds!

Gotta realize who the real enemy is…

Remember, many rank and file Dem’s may be closet DINO’s. Case in point is Donna Edwards who can’t be bothered responding to Janes calls for support of the public option or Harry Reid who keeps equivocating on super majorities or having 60 votes, or Obama the equivocator in chief who thinks pragmatism makes for good policy. We have more disingenuous Dem’s on this issue than not.

Oh, Barack Obama: He hits me (and it feels like a kiss).

I just don’t see where appeasing the likes of Mary Landrieu will do any good. Where has she been on all the other legislation offered to help the people? On the wrong side, that’s where.

I hate to go all Algebra on this but if Obama backs Mary and Mary backs the insurance companies well….

…you see where this is going.

President Barack Obama, July 1, 2009: “I believe we can accomplish (health care reform) this year. But in order to make it happen, I’m going to need ordinary Americans to stand up and say, “Now is the time.” You are what are going to drive this process forward — because if Congress thinks that the American people don’t want to see change, frankly, the lobbyists and the special interests will end up winning the day. But when the American people decide that something needs to happen, nothing can stop us.”

If this is Obama making an F.D.R. “I agree with you, I want to do it, now make me do it.” statement, then he oughtn’t to be scolding us when we take him at his word.

And, boy, are they making sure there is no level playing field. We have a major up-hill battle here.

Maybe this new EJ Dionne piece will spur more debate.

Obama’s Testing Time

Health Care, Deficit Pose Challenges

Fuck Mary Landrieu and Obama too. I don’t contribute to political campaigns. where do I send a donation to “Fuck Landrieu?”

I authorize this site to provide PCCC with my email address to make a contribution. Must be mail box or street. I don’t do internet.

I’m paying for a American woman that I do not know to fly to Costa Rica for medical testing for cancer. I’m sure she’s got it. I’ll pay for treatment, but I am just scratching a little bug on the injustice of America. This rot needs to be cut off from the top down.

Thanks DFA!

Staying on top of this is damn good work. Kudos to Jane and everyone doing it.

With Iraq starting to move to the front burner, Obama is going to need every ounce of support he can get, and especially from the progressive wing of the party that got him started and kept him going. Getting a real public option for health care is one of the most meaningful things he could do for americans, and it’s worth whatever political capital he will spend to get it.

Bottom line: He’s not in the white house because he was “bipartisan”.

There has never been a time when the twisted conservative view of things was more vulnerable. We need to run them back under the bridge, and Obama needs to lead the running, not drag his feet.

Good for DFA! Angry commercials are the very least that Dems like Landrieu deserve.

Obama may turn out to be exactly like Mary Landrieu? When she was elected into office she represented herself as something far different from what her voting record has turned out to be. More recently, she has turned completely corporate. I think she is hording cash before she decides to be a lobbyist.
I do not think she is ideological, but pragmatic. She feels she need to appease the conservatives to avoid a strong and motivate opposition candidate. It think it is time for her to get an opposition candidate in the primary. She needs the Arlen Spector treatment.

Any one who is not aware that Mary is a gas and oil whore hasn’t beeb paying attention.

Okay, I don’t want to start a riot. I have lived in Florida since 1987 and experienced all the craziness of Bush v’s Gore in 2000. But what it is about Louisiana? I know we had Jeb Bush & all his developer pals in charge for 8 years but at least we had (the late) Lawton Chiles (D) hold the state after Newt & his buddies took over Congress in ‘94. However, to have both Landrieu & Vitter at the same time! Florida doesn’t even come close. Is there some way us non-Louisianan’s can get in a vote for Stormy Daniels in 2010?

Can anyone give me a street address or a po number to send a donation to kick Landrieu and Obama straight in the teeth.

Impeachment now. 5 months of war crimes is 5 months too much. We’ve got another fucking Bush. Screw 2012. Maybe impeachment will help Biden understand that we are NOT FUCKING happy with the growing pile of pig shit.