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	<title>Comments on: Latest Whip Count:  6 Down, 34 to Go</title>
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		<title>By: punaise</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/03/latest-whip-count-6-down-34-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-30345</link>
		<dc:creator>punaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;click on “just try it now” in the post:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;They need to Take the Pledge to vote against any health care bill that doesn’t have a public plan which is:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    * available nationwide&lt;br /&gt;
    * on day one&lt;br /&gt;
    * and accountable to Congress and the voters &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please call progressive members of Congress and ask them to Take the Pledge now.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;note the semantic distinction of available on day one vs. “(maybe) available one day” as some Blue Dogs would have it!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>click on “just try it now” in the post:</p>
<blockquote><p>They need to Take the Pledge to vote against any health care bill that doesn’t have a public plan which is:</p>
<p>    * available nationwide<br />
    * on day one<br />
    * and accountable to Congress and the voters </p>
<p>Please call progressive members of Congress and ask them to Take the Pledge now.</p>
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<p>note the semantic distinction of available on day one vs. “(maybe) available one day” as some Blue Dogs would have it!</p>
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		<title>By: cbl2</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/03/latest-whip-count-6-down-34-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-30344</link>
		<dc:creator>cbl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Nationwide&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;on Day 1&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;accountable to Congress and the American People&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Nationwide</em></p>
<p>on Day 1</p>
<p>accountable to Congress and the American People</p>
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		<title>By: jayt</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/03/latest-whip-count-6-down-34-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-30343</link>
		<dc:creator>jayt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ok - courts are closed and no more meetings today. ready to call.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What are the three questions/demands again for the public option?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. availabale on day one.&lt;br /&gt;
2. ?&lt;br /&gt;
3. accountable to the congress and to the american people.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;help?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok &#8211; courts are closed and no more meetings today. ready to call.</p>
<p>What are the three questions/demands again for the public option?</p>
<p>1. availabale on day one.<br />
2. ?<br />
3. accountable to the congress and to the american people.</p>
<p>help?</p>
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		<title>By: Kassandra</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/03/latest-whip-count-6-down-34-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-30342</link>
		<dc:creator>Kassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Has anyone read this yet?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/6089&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/6089&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
If this is what’s going to happen, who cares what Congress does?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone read this yet?<br /><a href="http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/6089" rel="nofollow">http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/6089</a><br />
If this is what’s going to happen, who cares what Congress does?</p>
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		<title>By: cbl2</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/03/latest-whip-count-6-down-34-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-30341</link>
		<dc:creator>cbl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;yes, yes. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;hope you see my 12 above.  am asking all to put up or shut up -  with a great deal of charm of course.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, yes. </p>
<p>hope you see my 12 above.  am asking all to put up or shut up &#8211;  with a great deal of charm of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Hamsher</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/03/latest-whip-count-6-down-34-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-30340</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Hamsher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here’s the problem — they could be FOR single payer, and since that isn’t going to come up for a vote, they could still vote for something really shitty just to “get something passed.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s what we’re hearing now — members are saying they want to “get something passed this year,” so basically, let’s not make it too good.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s the problem — they could be FOR single payer, and since that isn’t going to come up for a vote, they could still vote for something really shitty just to “get something passed.”</p>
<p>It’s what we’re hearing now — members are saying they want to “get something passed this year,” so basically, let’s not make it too good.</p>
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		<title>By: cbl2</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/03/latest-whip-count-6-down-34-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-30339</link>
		<dc:creator>cbl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;am trying oh so gently, oh so “civilly”  to ask all those signatories to pledge &lt;em&gt;against&lt;/em&gt; any watered down compromises, against anything that doesn’t include our 3&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;nationwide on day one, covering all, with accountability to Congress and Electorate&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.</p>
<p>am trying oh so gently, oh so “civilly”  to ask all those signatories to pledge <em>against</em> any watered down compromises, against anything that doesn’t include our 3</p>
<p>nationwide on day one, covering all, with accountability to Congress and Electorate</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Hamsher</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/03/latest-whip-count-6-down-34-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-30338</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Hamsher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It means they’re a cosponsor of the Conyers bill, which is single payer. Hasn’t gotten out of committee, so it’s not really the question we’re asking.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’re not asking what they’ll vote FOR — we want to know what they’ll vote against.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It means they’re a cosponsor of the Conyers bill, which is single payer. Hasn’t gotten out of committee, so it’s not really the question we’re asking.</p>
<p>We’re not asking what they’ll vote FOR — we want to know what they’ll vote against.</p>
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		<title>By: punaise</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/03/latest-whip-count-6-down-34-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-30335</link>
		<dc:creator>punaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;backatcha!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so does that qualify as taking the pledge?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>backatcha!</p>
<p>so does that qualify as taking the pledge?</p>
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		<title>By: cbl2</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/03/latest-whip-count-6-down-34-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-30334</link>
		<dc:creator>cbl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;hey pun !&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Congr Lee is current Chair of Congressional Black Caucus - they released 6/24 joint statement (w/ Progressive, Hispanic, &amp; Asian Pac caucuses) in support of “strong public option”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey pun !</p>
<p>Congr Lee is current Chair of Congressional Black Caucus &#8211; they released 6/24 joint statement (w/ Progressive, Hispanic, &amp; Asian Pac caucuses) in support of “strong public option”</p>
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