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Leaning Yes | Undecided | Missing in Action |
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Whipping works–just try it and see!
Maxine Waters takes the pledge. Six down, thirty-four to go.
From the Citizen Whip Count:
Mack says Doggett is undecided:
I called the local office first and they claimed they didn’t know his position and told me to phone the D.C. office – I called D.C. twice and was told both times they don’t know if he has a position.
Chris says George Miller won’t say:
Spoke to person answering the phone. Mentioned the bill from the House committees has a public option. mentioned that Miller is a cosponsor of 676, the single payer bill. Absolutely would not state whether Miller would vote no on a weak bill even though I pushed a lot.
T says Peter Welch will get back to them:
Did not get her name, she apparently had no idea what his position is. "He’ll get back to you in writing" I’ll update when/if I hear anything more
John says Mike Doyle’s staff doesn’t know:
Amy knew nothing. Said she hadn’t heard of FDL. She didn’t know if Doyle supported single payer. I even offered to fax her a copy of an FDL post, since she wasn’t interested in going out to FDL’s site. She didn’t bite on that one either.
John also says Patrick Kennedy is an undecided:
Pratik (guy) was helpful and smooth. He said he was not familiar with FDL, but he asked me to fax him. I offered to show him the whip tool on the web and he claimed to be following along. I have more confidence that staffers/interns are really going out to FDL if it takes them time to log in and they tell me what they’re seeing. Not sure about Pratik.
And he indicates Steve Cohen won’t commit:
Adam knew exactly what I was talking about when I mentioned "the pledge" about the public option. Cohen is still firmly in "no position," but I sensed no animosity or lack of openness. I asked Adam if he knew when Cohen might take a position on the pledge, he did not. I emphasized that from a leadership perspective, it hurt to have Cohen in the "undecided" category.
David puts Sander Levin in the "leaning yes" category:
Janet says Kendrick Meek is "leaning yes" too:
I spoke with Mr. Meek’s office receptionist and she declined to identify herself and said any official statement needed to come from Adam Sharon. Mr. Meek signed onto HR 676 but is unsure of his position on the Public Option. He’s still fact finding, but at this time he’s leaning toward supporting a strong Public Option.
Florindo says Rangel "needs more pressure":
Charlie is trying to sleaze his way through this one, too. I spoke with Ms. (inaudible) and she gave me the usual routine about strongly favors public option with the characteristics of the 3 points but won’t commit to any vote until the final bill is on the floor.
I said, "But if 40 dems commit to vote no against any bogus public option, then they can influence the content of the final bill."
Yes, but …. blah blah blah.
Needs more pressure.
And just for kicks, John D. called Mark Kirk’s office:
They all laughed.
That is a good one.
I’m changing the chart slightly. Progressives we’re talking to aren’t really "refusing" per se to vote for a public plan, but they’re refusing to say they will vote against a bill that doesn’t have one. Since fondness for a public plan and a buck fifty will get you a cup of coffee, it amounts to little more than a back door to a sell-out. So we’re now calling it the "weasel words" category.





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suddenly getting lots of voicemail – are they all lighting out early for the 4th ?
anyone else ?
yep. same here.
but I did just get through to Roybal-Allard staff -
Can somebody briefly explain the relationship between H.R.676 and the public option? I got the “co-sponsor of H.R.676″ too, and am not sure what it means.
TIA
I’ll see if I can nudge Barbara Lee one column to the left.
moments later: left a voice mail. looks like they’re gone for the holiday weekend. will try again next week.
Hit Waxman’s e-mail box. He’s probably in DC this weekend,, but if he’s in his district, he’s not telling us. (He rarely has public meetings here, anyway, and the dinners-for-money are generally on the south side of Mulholland.)
Has anyone called Peter DeFazio? cannot believe he hasn’t taken the pledge….
here is Congressman Conyer’s HR 676 page
this is Single Payer - will leave it to Selise, Ralphbon or any of the other wonks among us to make a clear distinction for you as there are numerous (and all too convienent) definitions of Public Option
but frankly, if they’ve signed on to 676, they should have No problem pledging
hey pun !
Congr Lee is current Chair of Congressional Black Caucus – they released 6/24 joint statement (w/ Progressive, Hispanic, & Asian Pac caucuses) in support of “strong public option”
backatcha!
so does that qualify as taking the pledge?
It means they’re a cosponsor of the Conyers bill, which is single payer. Hasn’t gotten out of committee, so it’s not really the question we’re asking.
We’re not asking what they’ll vote FOR — we want to know what they’ll vote against.
No.
am trying oh so gently, oh so “civilly” to ask all those signatories to pledge against any watered down compromises, against anything that doesn’t include our 3
nationwide on day one, covering all, with accountability to Congress and Electorate
Here’s the problem — they could be FOR single payer, and since that isn’t going to come up for a vote, they could still vote for something really shitty just to “get something passed.”
It’s what we’re hearing now — members are saying they want to “get something passed this year,” so basically, let’s not make it too good.
yes, yes.
hope you see my 12 above. am asking all to put up or shut up – with a great deal of charm of course.
Has anyone read this yet?
http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/6089
If this is what’s going to happen, who cares what Congress does?
ok – courts are closed and no more meetings today. ready to call.
What are the three questions/demands again for the public option?
1. availabale on day one.
2. ?
3. accountable to the congress and to the american people.
help?
Nationwide
on Day 1
accountable to Congress and the American People
click on “just try it now” in the post:
note the semantic distinction of available on day one vs. “(maybe) available one day” as some Blue Dogs would have it!