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	<title>Comments on: Nadler Takes the Pledge:  NYCEve SCOOOORE!!!</title>
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		<title>By: SuefromCT</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/02/nadler-takes-the-pledge-nyceve-scoooore/#comment-30305</link>
		<dc:creator>SuefromCT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;According to this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.house.gov/htbin/ziplook_links?QRY066100&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.house.gov/htbin/ziplook_links?QRY066100&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jim Himes is my rep, not Rosa. However, he still hasn’t answered these questions:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=11501&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/sh.....ryId=11501&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to this:<br /><a href="http://www.house.gov/htbin/ziplook_links?QRY066100" rel="nofollow">http://www.house.gov/htbin/ziplook_links?QRY066100</a></p>
<p>Jim Himes is my rep, not Rosa. However, he still hasn’t answered these questions:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=11501" rel="nofollow">http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/sh&#8230;..ryId=11501</a></p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/02/nadler-takes-the-pledge-nyceve-scoooore/#comment-30302</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!</p>
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		<title>By: jawbone</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/02/nadler-takes-the-pledge-nyceve-scoooore/#comment-30301</link>
		<dc:creator>jawbone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What is the public option? So far, it doesn’t look good. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Like, there can be a public option but it may not offer much care.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the public option? So far, it doesn’t look good. </p>
<p>Like, there can be a public option but it may not offer much care.</p>
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		<title>By: nyceve</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/02/nadler-takes-the-pledge-nyceve-scoooore/#comment-30300</link>
		<dc:creator>nyceve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Next week, I’m calling Carolyn Maloney.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next week, I’m calling Carolyn Maloney.</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/02/nadler-takes-the-pledge-nyceve-scoooore/#comment-30299</link>
		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Next time ask him if he supports ED services in healthcare then ask him why he supports the double standard and hates women.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next time ask him if he supports ED services in healthcare then ask him why he supports the double standard and hates women.</p>
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		<title>By: AAbshier</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/02/nadler-takes-the-pledge-nyceve-scoooore/#comment-30298</link>
		<dc:creator>AAbshier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;IL-12:  I talked to Jerry Costello’s staffers, and they said he is firmly against a public option if it includes money for reproductive services.  I politely told the staffers that a “no” vote on the public option was unacceptable.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jerry is usually a good Democrat on votes–he’s consistently voted no on Iraq war supplementals–but he’s always socially conservative.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Andy&lt;br /&gt;
Alton IL&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IL-12:  I talked to Jerry Costello’s staffers, and they said he is firmly against a public option if it includes money for reproductive services.  I politely told the staffers that a “no” vote on the public option was unacceptable.</p>
<p>Jerry is usually a good Democrat on votes–he’s consistently voted no on Iraq war supplementals–but he’s always socially conservative.</p>
<p>Andy<br />
Alton IL</p>
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		<title>By: sporkovat</title>
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		<dc:creator>sporkovat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey faithful Democrats to the last drop, prepare to take Downwithtyranny off of you ’safe-surfing’ list!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Noah over there sent this response to a fundraising letter from ‘Give ‘em hell’ Harry Reid:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Until there is a public option (and one that isn’t a watered-down, crossed-fingers-behind-the-back one), or, better yet, single-payer,&lt;strong&gt; I don’t see why I should support or vote for Democrats anymore.&lt;em&gt; Your party seems to think we have no choice but to vote for you.&lt;/em&gt; Well, I’ll either support third-party candidates or just stay home&lt;/strong&gt;. What’s the difference? Now I hear even President Obama is open to abandoning the public-option concept. Might as well have given Bush a third term.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m sick of the sell-outs and sick of the corruption and bribe-taking. I’m tired of the smirks and the laughter coming from inside the Beltway. Tired of being played. You guys either have no idea or just don’t care. The Senate is the worst of all. I’ll give the Repugs credit, though. At least they have a spine. You’re givin’ us hell, all right. A Republican-lite is still a Repug.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;emphasis mine. there’s more!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;he adds in bold “&lt;strong&gt;Change is a hell of a lot more than a cynical campaign slogan&lt;/strong&gt; “&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2009/07/he-gives-us-hell-all-right.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://downwithtyranny.blogspo.....right.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you’ve probably already stopped visiting Glenn Greenwald, just as they have stopped linking to him here.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey faithful Democrats to the last drop, prepare to take Downwithtyranny off of you ’safe-surfing’ list!</p>
<p>Noah over there sent this response to a fundraising letter from ‘Give ‘em hell’ Harry Reid:</p>
<blockquote><p>Until there is a public option (and one that isn’t a watered-down, crossed-fingers-behind-the-back one), or, better yet, single-payer,<strong> I don’t see why I should support or vote for Democrats anymore.<em> Your party seems to think we have no choice but to vote for you.</em> Well, I’ll either support third-party candidates or just stay home</strong>. What’s the difference? Now I hear even President Obama is open to abandoning the public-option concept. Might as well have given Bush a third term.</p>
<p>I’m sick of the sell-outs and sick of the corruption and bribe-taking. I’m tired of the smirks and the laughter coming from inside the Beltway. Tired of being played. You guys either have no idea or just don’t care. The Senate is the worst of all. I’ll give the Repugs credit, though. At least they have a spine. You’re givin’ us hell, all right. A Republican-lite is still a Repug.</p>
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<p>emphasis mine. there’s more!</p>
<p>he adds in bold “<strong>Change is a hell of a lot more than a cynical campaign slogan</strong> “</p>
<p><a href="http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2009/07/he-gives-us-hell-all-right.html" rel="nofollow">http://downwithtyranny.blogspo&#8230;..right.html</a></p>
<p>you’ve probably already stopped visiting Glenn Greenwald, just as they have stopped linking to him here.</p>
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		<title>By: BargainCountertenor</title>
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		<dc:creator>BargainCountertenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, buddy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I didn’t get much of anywhere, but we’re making progress!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Way to go, Eve!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, buddy.</p>
<p>I didn’t get much of anywhere, but we’re making progress!</p>
<p>Way to go, Eve!</p>
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		<title>By: ralphbon</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/02/nadler-takes-the-pledge-nyceve-scoooore/#comment-30286</link>
		<dc:creator>ralphbon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, but wait a second. Nadler specifies his criteria for a robust public option, in line with the Congressional Progressive Caucus’s criteria. Fine. Many legislators support such robustness criteria. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But as for what he’s pledging to &lt;em&gt;vote against&lt;/em&gt;, all he says is, “any health reform bill that excludes the public option.” He is not saying that he would vote against any bill &lt;em&gt;that fails to meet his criteria &lt;/em&gt; for a robust public option. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By my read, that means he could still vote for a weak public option. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Note that his robustness criteria call for a public option “open to anyone.” But the HELP bill excludes most people with employer-based health insurance from choosing the public plan. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So is Jerry saying he’d vote against the HELP bill in its current form?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If his promise to nyceve went beyond his written statement, I’m happy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but wait a second. Nadler specifies his criteria for a robust public option, in line with the Congressional Progressive Caucus’s criteria. Fine. Many legislators support such robustness criteria. </p>
<p>But as for what he’s pledging to <em>vote against</em>, all he says is, “any health reform bill that excludes the public option.” He is not saying that he would vote against any bill <em>that fails to meet his criteria </em> for a robust public option. </p>
<p>By my read, that means he could still vote for a weak public option. </p>
<p>Note that his robustness criteria call for a public option “open to anyone.” But the HELP bill excludes most people with employer-based health insurance from choosing the public plan. </p>
<p>So is Jerry saying he’d vote against the HELP bill in its current form?</p>
<p>If his promise to nyceve went beyond his written statement, I’m happy.</p>
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		<title>By: art3</title>
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		<dc:creator>art3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;so these progs taking the pledge-they are promising to allow ANYONE to opt into the pub opt if they want even if their employer is providing benefits? the help bill prohibits this.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so these progs taking the pledge-they are promising to allow ANYONE to opt into the pub opt if they want even if their employer is providing benefits? the help bill prohibits this.</p>
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