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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;He&#8217;s With Us On Everything But The War&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: tk1200</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/01/hes-with-us-on-everything-but-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-30204</link>
		<dc:creator>tk1200</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t know. My sister and brother-in-law live in Connecticut and they get their health insurance coverage through his large corporate employer. If a public option plan offered less coverage that the coverage they currently enjoy, then they would be opposed to it because they harbor suspicions  that the large corporate employer would switch its group coverage from BC/BS to the public option. In a similar vein, they would not be inclined Senator Joe B.S. Liberman if that meant an inferior public option would advance. (On the other hand, they favor a single payer universal health care system, if you asked them their preference between a public option plan and single payer system.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think you need to concentrate public recall efforts to those states where there is substantial current unemployment or where there is a traditional lack of  employment-based health insurance coverage and there is substantial public sentiment for the public option. Louisiana, I  think, would be one such state. Maybe Connecticut as well. My sister and her husband have never voted for Lieberman. They think he’s an ass. But I don’t know how he is viewed state-wide. Still, it would be fun to try.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t know. My sister and brother-in-law live in Connecticut and they get their health insurance coverage through his large corporate employer. If a public option plan offered less coverage that the coverage they currently enjoy, then they would be opposed to it because they harbor suspicions  that the large corporate employer would switch its group coverage from BC/BS to the public option. In a similar vein, they would not be inclined Senator Joe B.S. Liberman if that meant an inferior public option would advance. (On the other hand, they favor a single payer universal health care system, if you asked them their preference between a public option plan and single payer system.)</p>
<p>I think you need to concentrate public recall efforts to those states where there is substantial current unemployment or where there is a traditional lack of  employment-based health insurance coverage and there is substantial public sentiment for the public option. Louisiana, I  think, would be one such state. Maybe Connecticut as well. My sister and her husband have never voted for Lieberman. They think he’s an ass. But I don’t know how he is viewed state-wide. Still, it would be fun to try.</p>
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		<title>By: coach777b</title>
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		<dc:creator>coach777b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;JOE (Independent Democrat) is a waste of time and money. Us voters here in CT voted him out in the primaries and the republicans, joining with Lieberman loyalist democrats, voted him in. He knows he can never run again here in CT so he’s trying to do as much damage as he can before time runs out. I’m willing to help him pack his bags for Tel Aviv.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JOE (Independent Democrat) is a waste of time and money. Us voters here in CT voted him out in the primaries and the republicans, joining with Lieberman loyalist democrats, voted him in. He knows he can never run again here in CT so he’s trying to do as much damage as he can before time runs out. I’m willing to help him pack his bags for Tel Aviv.</p>
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		<title>By: tejanarusa</title>
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		<dc:creator>tejanarusa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ouch!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(just coming back to this thread )&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch!</p>
<p>(just coming back to this thread )</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I still can’t see how the Clintons could have ever forgiven this backstabbing jerk for how he enabled the Republicans to press on with impeachment in September of 1998.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still can’t see how the Clintons could have ever forgiven this backstabbing jerk for how he enabled the Republicans to press on with impeachment in September of 1998.</p>
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		<title>By: BobTinKY</title>
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		<dc:creator>BobTinKY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To think we nominated this douchebag for VP.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To think we nominated this douchebag for VP.</p>
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		<title>By: alank</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/01/hes-with-us-on-everything-but-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-30142</link>
		<dc:creator>alank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“I have long supported the goal of universal health care,” Lieberman told reporters. “Ned Lamont can talk about it. I’ve been doing something about it all the time I’ve been here.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He made sure after he said that, that universal health care would drown in a bathtub.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“I have long supported the goal of universal health care,” Lieberman told reporters. “Ned Lamont can talk about it. I’ve been doing something about it all the time I’ve been here.</p>
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<p>He made sure after he said that, that universal health care would drown in a bathtub.</p>
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		<title>By: CasualObserver</title>
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		<dc:creator>CasualObserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Regarding the Majority Leader’s infamous line&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;“He’s With Us On Everything But The War”–&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it turns out that Lieberman was way out ahead of his own (at the time) party.  For now the Democrats are funding the war appropriations without interruption, just as the Republicans had done.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, Lieberman took some flak at the time, but now The Party has come around to seeing the wisdom of Liberman’s viewpoint.  By emulating it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the Majority Leader’s infamous line</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“He’s With Us On Everything But The War”–</em></p></blockquote>
<p>it turns out that Lieberman was way out ahead of his own (at the time) party.  For now the Democrats are funding the war appropriations without interruption, just as the Republicans had done.  </p>
<p>Yes, Lieberman took some flak at the time, but now The Party has come around to seeing the wisdom of Liberman’s viewpoint.  By emulating it.</p>
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		<title>By: OldCoastie</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/01/hes-with-us-on-everything-but-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-30136</link>
		<dc:creator>OldCoastie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I never forget that Lieberman was Obama’s mentor.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never forget that Lieberman was Obama’s mentor.</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kneepads Lieberman would skin any knee in service to his Connecticut corporations, in Hartford and elsewhere.  His interest in serving nutmeggers who live outside certain neighborhoods in Greenwich is less passionate.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kneepads Lieberman would skin any knee in service to his Connecticut corporations, in Hartford and elsewhere.  His interest in serving nutmeggers who live outside certain neighborhoods in Greenwich is less passionate.</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
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		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I say Obama is soldily in the Lieberman wing of Independent Democrats. To clarify, Lieberman calls himself a Democrat, an Independent Democrat or an Independent depending on what meets his needs at any given time. Of course, there is no such animal as an Independent Democrat, but there he is - Joe Lieberman - and the media plays the charade as Lieberman ordains it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Both Obama and Lieberman are Blue Dogs at heart.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The electorate is on the left.  The money is on the right.  So they campaign from the left and govern on the right.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But 2010 should be about the primaries.  We have enough elected officials who call themselves Democrats.  Now it is time to elect &lt;strong&gt;better Democrats.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I say Obama is soldily in the Lieberman wing of Independent Democrats. To clarify, Lieberman calls himself a Democrat, an Independent Democrat or an Independent depending on what meets his needs at any given time. Of course, there is no such animal as an Independent Democrat, but there he is &#8211; Joe Lieberman &#8211; and the media plays the charade as Lieberman ordains it.</p>
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<p>Both Obama and Lieberman are Blue Dogs at heart.</p>
<p>The electorate is on the left.  The money is on the right.  So they campaign from the left and govern on the right.</p>
<p>But 2010 should be about the primaries.  We have enough elected officials who call themselves Democrats.  Now it is time to elect <strong>better Democrats.</strong></p>
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