The real cap is on the public interest, and the trade is from the public to the polluters. It’s too weak to spur new technologies and green jobs. An administration analysis shows that doing nothing actually results in more new renewable energy, electricity generation capacity than approving this bill.
Vital authority for the EPA is stripped, but two billion additional tons of pollution are approved….forever. Residential consumer protection, incredibly entrusted to the mercy of utility companies. Exempting 100 new coal plants, and paying billions to Old King Coal, does indeed leave him a merry old soul.
This bill is 85% diffferent from what President Obama proposed just a few months ago. No wonder that his budget director called this type of legislation "the largest carpet welfare program in the history of the United States."
Until families share in the billions this bill grants powerful lobbies, I cannot support it.
A short time later, Doggett voted in favor of the bill.
What happened? Why did members like Doggett and Tom Perriello, who had committed to vote against the bill, switch their votes?
Pelosi and her top lieutenants would spend the next four hours whipping, cajoling, begging and browbeating undecided Democrats — and triple-checking their whip lists to decide who was a solid “yes” and who was prevaricating on the cap-and-trade legislation.
Yet no matter how many calls they made — or how many times they checked and rechecked their list — Majority Whip Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) and Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) kept coming up between 12 and 20 votes short of the 216 votes needed to win.
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Party leaders agreed to bring the bill to the floor during a meeting Monday night, even though some of the members present had reservations about forcing vulnerable Democrats to cast votes on a package that may not go anywhere in the Senate.
That’s crap — vulnerable progressive Democrats like Perriello were forced to vote yes against their conscience* to give cover for safe Blue Dogs like Gene Taylor to vote "no."
One of Pelosi’s first targets was Rep. Rush Holt (D-N.J.), a key fence-sitter who wanted more money generated from the carbon trading to be directed to the research and development of green technology.
Pelosi talked to him again and again, but he wouldn’t budge. Her message to him was the same as it was to others: It wasn’t worth voting against the bill because of what wasn’t in it.
According to witnesses, Pelosi perched herself on the arm of Holt’s chair and went nose to nose with him for a half-hour warning him that his no vote could scuttle the entire climate change effort — and that liberals would have another chance to make their case once the bill came back from the Senate.
Around 2 o’clock, he became a “yes.”
Next up was Austin, Texas, liberal Rep. Lloyd Doggett, who had seemed to be leaning toward the bill during a Thursday night visit with Obama in the Oval Office — but then infuriated the White House midday Friday by declaring the measure too weak on polluters to win his vote.
An exasperated White House staffer told POLITICO it was “stunning that he would ignore the wishes not just of his president but of his constituents and the country.”
This is exactly the argument that was made to progressives during the supplemental — it turned into a loyalty test to the President.
Then Pelosi began working Doggett as the two stood in the back of the chamber near the railing, making the same perfect-is-enemy-of-the-good argument she had used against Holt. Doggett ended up voting “yes.”During the vote, Washington Rep. Jay Inslee, one of the taller members of the House, guarded the doors on the floor leading out to the Speaker’s Lobby, warning members not to leave the floor in case anyone needed to switch his or her vote. But that didn’t stop some Democrats, like Colorado Rep. John Salazar, from voting no early and sneaking out to avoid getting pressured by party leaders.
Leadership aides say Texas Rep. Ciro Rodriguez promised Pelosi he’d vote yes, but voted no and sprinted from the chamber. California Rep. Xavier Becerra tried unsuccessfully to flag him on his cell phone — and Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) bounded into the ornate Speaker’s Lobby off the floor shouting, “Rodriguez! Rodriguez!” as puzzled reporters looked on.
This is a picture of what will happen on the Public Option. Trial balloons are already being sent up about a sell-out, and the "co-op" plan is now the "liberal option" among the Villagers. Progressives (like Adam Green) who represent the feelings of 76% of the country are "extremists" who want to "kill health care reform."
We’re headed for a bad compromise unless members of Congress know that there is safety in numbers, that their constituents are aware of what’s going on and won’t let their arms get twisted into betraying their districts. This is why we need to get them on the record. Now. They need to Take the Pledge to vote against any bill that doesn’t have any health care bill if it doesn’t include a public plan that is 1) available nationwide, 2) from day one, and 3) answerable to Congress and the voters.
Jay Inslee, who "guarded the doors" as an enforcer, is in a solid progressive district and could probably use some calls asking him to Take the Pledge. His office numbers are 202-225-6311 (DC), 206-361-0233 or 360-598-2342 in Seattle. His Chief of Staff is Brian Bonlender, who can be reached at 202-225-6311, and his Press Secretary is Christine Hanson, who is at 202-225-6311. His staff is also on Twitter.
Inslee and others need to know that we don’t want the Doggett story replayed on health care.
Your calls are having a tremendous impact — keep ‘em coming.
Tell members of Congress to Take the Pledge.
*Update: Perriello’s office contacted us to say that he always intended to vote against the bill.





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Sen. Udall is having a meeting today in ABQ on health legislation. Rep. Heinrich will be available tomorrow. Will let you know what we learn.
Good lord………….
Do you know when Hienrich will be here? I can’t make Udall’s meeting but I’ve called and emailed him…the usual pap from Udall.
His email response to my question:
Blah, blah, blah
am I reading this correctly that Pelosi could have whipped *more* votes by pushing a stronger bill?
Lloyd, Lloyd, Lloyd… *sigh*
So we’re back to loyalty tests. Are Dems gonna now be asked to sign loyalty pledges? How about a pledge of loyalty to the citizens of our country, although it’s hard to be loyal to the citizens while giving blow jobs to corporate campaign donors.
This just proves that the dim “leadership” doesn’t want to do anything that will really upset the big polluters or big insurance or big pharma. All that the “leadership” wants to do is pass something that they can spin as a great victory because it was the best they could do given the obstructionist repugs. I find it quite hard to reconcile the polls that show the interest of the population to be leftish, but they keep voting in these rightists.
I get the same dizzy feeling I used to when I listened to Bush…
something is terribly wrong here…
Thanks, let us know what you hear.
Politicians run to the left (populist) during elections, and then govern to the right (big campaign contributors) when in office.
And everyone shrugs and says “well, that’s just politics.” It is if you let it happen, but this time we don’t have to.
I’m in Doggett’s district, and emailed him about his position on the public option–I think two weeks ago. I have not heard back from him, which is unusual. I will continue with him until he responds.
Sorry to read this story, but Doggett is generally very good.
Obama is burning through his political capital like there’s no tomorrow. Perhaps there is no tomorrow.
The Democrats were elected to fix things. They are correct that the perfect is the enemy of the good-enough, but the worse-than-nothing is the end of life-as-we-know-it: http://firedoglake.com/2008/06…..nd-nature/
Jane, a public option, even if “robust,” is already a bad compromise, and I’m a little exasperated at HCAN-style progressives giving single-payer advocates the Sister Souljah treatment for insisting on pointing that out. Now that the mainstream compromisers like HCAN are getting the “don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good” treatment from “centrists,” one would think they’d muster a little more empathy for the single-payer advocates at whom they’d been flinging the same line.
I’m extremely dubious that any public option plan will be better than no bill, especially if a stall in Obamacare could be exploited to generate public momentum for something far closer to single payer. After all, a majority of Americans, including a majority of health professionals support national health insurance. As Robert Kuttner skillfully pointed out, the recent NYT/CBS poll findings roundly cited as evidence of support for Obamacare are far more plausibly interpreted as evidence for straight-up single-payer support.
All that said, I’m still hedging my bets and have pressed Yvette Clarke to declare on whether she will refuse to vote for a public option that does not adhere to the Congressional Progressive Caucus’s robustness criteria (sorry, but your three bullet points, and HCAN’s criteria, are not nearly vigorous enough).
I’m communicating with the congresswoman’s Senior Legislative Counsel (who, not encouragingly, had not heard of the CPC criteria even though Clarke is a CPC member) and will report back, dutifully.
He is burning through his capital, but not all that fast. The political capital he cares about is with the center–not the left. Obama can ignore the left without consequence–that’s his operating principle, and the principle of his strategists, and the principle of the village in general.
Jay Inslee is scheduled to be on KUOW’s The Conversation today at noon Pacific.
I agree with Casual Observer (I’m also one of Doggett’s constituents). For Doggett to have caved like that, there must have been some heavy duty pressure.
In a lot of ways, Obama is starting to remind me of LBJ. Great in some ways, awful in some others. But always governing from the middle, with equal contempt for the right and the left.
RBG !
I’m beginning to think that Obama ain’t half of what LBJ was, but we’ll see. LBJ was a hard bastard and the war killed him, but he contributed greatly to some very significant domestic achievements of the day. Obama strikes me as having significantly less courage, politically.
HuffPo headline:
The problem is that he comes down on the wrong side of that divide most of the time.
Again. Where is Biden in all this? Just curious. I always liked the guy and remember how he said he’d give his best advice and then do what the president decided. Is he pushing this shit too? He got trashed by David Broder (= knucklehead) for not knowing what he was doing vis-a-vis the Hosue during the stimulus fight. Don’t they trust him anymore? This all may be neither here nor there but I’m always surprised that during these fights for close bills I’m not hearing about Joe The Biden and I thought this was going to be his job.
Is there a Democratic challenger in the presidential primaries looming on the horizon? If Obama’s administration continues tacking to the right in the name of expediency and bipartisanship then a challenge from the true left is justified.
“Is there a Democratic challenger in the presidential primaries looming on the horizon? If Obama’s administration continues tacking to the right in the name of expediency and bipartisanship then a challenge from the true left is justified.”
Never happen. Short of an unprecedented scandal.
funny that. was thinking of LBJ while watching PBO’s ‘keep your powder dry’ nonsense at the LGBT WH gathering. LBJ, a southerner had the courage to force Civil Rights Act knowing damn good n well he’d be losing ‘the South for a generation’. CIC Obama is worried about some old school brass feeling icky
Wow. Lloyd Doggett has always been sold – when he ran for Senate years ago he was depicted as a radical liberal.
I understand the “perfect is the enemy of the good” argument; I’ve used it myself. (not on this suspect) Sometimes it is the way to go.
Cheers for Ciro Rodriguez, who used to be my own rep (he was redistricted). He has disappointed me sometimes recently, acting too much like a Blue Dog. Props to him for a “no” vote.
Here is Udall’s schedule for Las Cruces, hoping BC sees this.
Udall Town Hall
10:00 – 10:45 a.m. Boys and Girls Club, 330 W. Las Cruces Ave., Las Cruces
Udall Takes on Tobacco with Boys and Girls Club SMART Living Class
11:00 – 11:30 a.m. Boys and Girls Club, 330 W. Las Cruces Ave., Las Cruces
That’s the political calculus, though, isn’t it? What good is political power if you never do anything “good” with it? And what’s the use in doing anything “good” if the political price is Republican control of the White House for 28 of the next 40 years? LBJ obviously did the right thing with the voting rights act, but the political price was way steeper than even imagined. I’m not defending Obama here, but that’s what he and Rahm are afraid of.
That’s what LBJ thought until Gene McCarthy and then RFK tossed their hats in the ring.
The price may have been steep (leaving aside consideration of whether it really had to be), but at least it was paid by a nation that had all its citizens empowered to participate without fear of being murdered and buried in an earthen dam for trying.
This all so expectable. The Democrats are not our allies but our opponents. They voted for the Military Commissions Act buying into Bush’s torture and detention policies. They made the FISA Amendments Act which legitimized domestic spying happen. They rallied behind the TARP and an egregious sellout to the banks. They pushed the supplemental through making wars in Iraq and Afghanistan Democratic wars. They wrangled the Waxman-Markey cap and trade and offset bill through the House on the basis that it was better than nothing (although as wigwam points out it could be worse than nothing). And now we are talking healthcare and a Democratic sellout to the insurance companies, the medical industry, and Big Pharma. As I said, could anything be more expectable?
Come on Jane…
“Pelosi and her top lieutenants would spend the next four hours whipping, cajoling, begging and browbeating undecided Democrats”
We liberals know Nancy by now. She did nothing but bribe, bribe, bribe. It has nothing to do with her “skill”. She’s so dirty I feel like taking a bath just looking at her. Honesty and morality, for her, is “off the table”.
I’m not listening to any of this crap anymore until people like you start telling the real truth and do a little work for a change. Tell us who got promised what or just go away.
Jane Hamsher wrote:
The sentence isn’t worded well.
Better is…
They need to Take the Pledge to vote against any health care bill which doesn’t include a public plan
I don’t think it’s about the political center. If that were so he’d tie the bill to some kind of bipartisan vote. Of course, it would fail, but if he really wanted the political center (as seen by most as bipartisanship) he’d do that.
There are at least two other ways to see this: one is that the political center isn’t squarely between the Dems and Repubs, but where the president senses the public to be; the other is the intellectual center which is where the bill isn’t particularly partisan at all.
The public seems to be to the left of the Senate Dems and perhaps even of the president. But, to get a bill that far to the left would mean NOT getting it out of Congress.
The intellectual center is often going to be easier to get past the political filters since it isn’t going to be seen as a ‘victory’ or ‘defeat’ by those who focus too much on political fights. This center is one which considers the extremities of the features or overall impact of a bill and finds that they are balanced and not destructive in effect.
I think Pres. Obama’s initial goals were non-political and as such have been an excellent guide for legislators. But now, I think the political fight has changed. The Republicans have said they’re not going to vote for a public option. At least almost all of them have. I suppose there’s still the possibility they will come to their senses and realize the political danger of being so far outside the mainstream of the public’s thinking that it would be disaster to go against the tide. Naturally, as Sen. Snowe has indicated, they would still like Dems to give up something to move the bill toward them despite the fact they haven’t said they’ll give anything (like a vote) in return.
I think the intellectual center is less intrusion/help for private insurers and more gov’t activity (the public option) to help the public get insurance. The reason this isn’t a Lefty position is that it doesn’t act to harm private insurers or to overuse gov’t force the way a single-payer plan would. We were so far to the Right to begin with that any move toward the Center will naturally be seen as a Leftward shift.
America has conceded to the corporate Right and now we’re reclaiming the Center!
The ground shifted under his feet. That happens sometimes to Presidents. But, if they’re interested in what’s good for the country and not practice so much politics, then the public can be very forgiving and patient.
So, I attended Sen. Udall’s town hall today in ABQ, on health care.
It was held at a VFW hall. It was a loud and boorish affair with the ranks full of people who get their talking points directly from Rush, Rove, or the Heritage Foundation. Oh, and a lot of teabaggers and Obama haters.
There were a lot of us, and Udall did his best. He did say very clearly that he would not vote for a bill that does not have a public option.
They bugged him about the overturn of Ricci, the bailout, socialized medicine, whether the Tacos would still have their jobs next January. (Tacos are a Kirtland AFB unit.) He said Sotomayor was the most highly experience jurist to have been nominated, a chorus of major booing on that.
It was dreadful. I hope he has a better reception at other venues in NM.