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		<title>By: greenwarrior</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/whip-it-day-5/#comment-29608</link>
		<dc:creator>greenwarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i agree.  actually, i’d rather we started from single payer.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree.  actually, i’d rather we started from single payer.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/whip-it-day-5/#comment-29606</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t see the Exchange as being wasteful or particularly expensive to set up and run.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Furthermore, the public option is entirely separate from the Exchange. Either could exist in the absence of the other.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, a public option could be farmed-out to a private firm to run or it could be run by a government entity (as the Rockefeller bill would establish).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are options within the concept of a ‘public option’.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t see the Exchange as being wasteful or particularly expensive to set up and run.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the public option is entirely separate from the Exchange. Either could exist in the absence of the other.</p>
<p>Yes, a public option could be farmed-out to a private firm to run or it could be run by a government entity (as the Rockefeller bill would establish).</p>
<p>There are options within the concept of a ‘public option’.</p>
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		<title>By: ralphbon</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/whip-it-day-5/#comment-29605</link>
		<dc:creator>ralphbon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m disappointed that the pledge is based on the HCAN principles rather than the more robust principles set forth by the Congressional Progressive Caucus. The CPC principles are superior in at least one crucial respect: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;HCAN: A public health insurance option &lt;strong&gt;doesn’t have to be a government entity necessarily&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/sections/prt_detail.cfm?itemID=420&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CPC&lt;/a&gt;: A robust public option must…Consist of one entity, &lt;strong&gt;operated by the federal government, &lt;/strong&gt;which sets policies and bears the risk for paying medical claims to keep administrative costs low and provide a higher standard of care…. &lt;strong&gt;Utilize the existing infrastructure of successful public programs &lt;/strong&gt;like Medicare in order to maintain transparency and consumer protections for administering processes including payment systems, claims and appeals.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This distinction is critical to ensuring that the public option does not add an entirely new bureaucracy, which if nongovernmental would actually constitute a new, albeit nonprofit, insurance company, rather than a far more efficient (and potentially more single-payer-ready) adaptation of existing government infrastructures. Note that either way, the public option will already require the creation of a new, wasteful infrastructure in the form of the “exchange.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I want to see the entire 80-member CPC pledge to vote against any public option that fails to live up to the CPC principles. Since Reps Grijalva, Ellison, and Woolsey are in the leadership of CPC’s health reform efforts, I want to make sure they sign on not just to the HCAN principles, which set a low bar, but to the CPC principles that they themselves helped promulgate.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m disappointed that the pledge is based on the HCAN principles rather than the more robust principles set forth by the Congressional Progressive Caucus. The CPC principles are superior in at least one crucial respect: </p>
<p>HCAN: A public health insurance option <strong>doesn’t have to be a government entity necessarily</strong>.</p>
<p><a href="http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/sections/prt_detail.cfm?itemID=420" rel="nofollow">CPC</a>: A robust public option must…Consist of one entity, <strong>operated by the federal government, </strong>which sets policies and bears the risk for paying medical claims to keep administrative costs low and provide a higher standard of care…. <strong>Utilize the existing infrastructure of successful public programs </strong>like Medicare in order to maintain transparency and consumer protections for administering processes including payment systems, claims and appeals.</p>
<p>This distinction is critical to ensuring that the public option does not add an entirely new bureaucracy, which if nongovernmental would actually constitute a new, albeit nonprofit, insurance company, rather than a far more efficient (and potentially more single-payer-ready) adaptation of existing government infrastructures. Note that either way, the public option will already require the creation of a new, wasteful infrastructure in the form of the “exchange.”</p>
<p>I want to see the entire 80-member CPC pledge to vote against any public option that fails to live up to the CPC principles. Since Reps Grijalva, Ellison, and Woolsey are in the leadership of CPC’s health reform efforts, I want to make sure they sign on not just to the HCAN principles, which set a low bar, but to the CPC principles that they themselves helped promulgate.</p>
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		<title>By: katymine</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/whip-it-day-5/#comment-29604</link>
		<dc:creator>katymine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When Elmore called Ron Wydan office the first time he was told that the senate didn’t have the votes by a staffer…… the second time the staffer really tried to hang up on him…. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How many others are getting this reaction?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Elmore called Ron Wydan office the first time he was told that the senate didn’t have the votes by a staffer…… the second time the staffer really tried to hang up on him…. </p>
<p>How many others are getting this reaction?</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Partridge</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/whip-it-day-5/#comment-29603</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Centrist Democrats, you see, risk alienating progressive Tri-Caucus House members who are pledging to vote against any bill that doesn’t include a robust public option.  But you will not see this fight framed that way by Ms Connolly.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Centrist Democrats, you see, risk alienating progressive Tri-Caucus House members who are pledging to vote against any bill that doesn’t include a robust public option.  But you will not see this fight framed that way by Ms Connolly.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Partridge</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/whip-it-day-5/#comment-29602</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ceci Connolly is a dishonest reporter.  Not that that makes her exceptional, it just needed saying.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ceci Connolly is a dishonest reporter.  Not that that makes her exceptional, it just needed saying.</p>
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