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	<title>Comments on: GOP Won&#8217;t Support A Public Option</title>
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		<title>By: Robt</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/27/gop-wont-support-a-public-option/comment-page-1/#comment-29524</link>
		<dc:creator>Robt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The GOP and some Democratic members sure enjoy their publically funded health care. And they sure think it works well for them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, it will never work for the little people.  Just look at Canada or France.  Unless you have really seen their health care systems, other than what our American corporate media is willing to allow you to really see.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I like the GOPer’s hypothetical “how are we going to pay for it”?  Or “who is going to pay for it”?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; WHO IS PAYING FOR THEIR HEALTH CARE AND HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR IT?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;America has citizens who cannot afford health care themselves but must pay taxes to cover Congress.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why won’t they get out in the FREE MARKET on their own and pay for their own health care.  Tax payers can then cut congress’s pay to remove their coverag4e dollars and save the tax payers some real money.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I imagine the health care industry would slip in a health care coverage plan into congress’s campaign fund for their support of the industries corporate favored representation.   This way Americans do NOT have to pay directly for them.  The health care industry could raise our rates and deny our care to cover congress.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Many are not even trying….  But I really enjoy the competition arguement from the GOPer’s………….!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GOP and some Democratic members sure enjoy their publically funded health care. And they sure think it works well for them.</p>
<p>But, it will never work for the little people.  Just look at Canada or France.  Unless you have really seen their health care systems, other than what our American corporate media is willing to allow you to really see.</p>
<p>I like the GOPer’s hypothetical “how are we going to pay for it”?  Or “who is going to pay for it”?</p>
<p> WHO IS PAYING FOR THEIR HEALTH CARE AND HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR IT?</p>
<p>America has citizens who cannot afford health care themselves but must pay taxes to cover Congress.  </p>
<p>Why won’t they get out in the FREE MARKET on their own and pay for their own health care.  Tax payers can then cut congress’s pay to remove their coverag4e dollars and save the tax payers some real money.</p>
<p>I imagine the health care industry would slip in a health care coverage plan into congress’s campaign fund for their support of the industries corporate favored representation.   This way Americans do NOT have to pay directly for them.  The health care industry could raise our rates and deny our care to cover congress.</p>
<p>Many are not even trying….  But I really enjoy the competition arguement from the GOPer’s………….!</p>
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		<title>By: JamesJoyce</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamesJoyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just a suggestion why not amend the tax code and use tax incentives as a means of controlling healthcare prices/costs for the healthcare corporations??    Lets see…….. tax liabilities create the necessity for cost control in most American’s homes!  That is until you get sick can’t work…. lose your insurance, then your home! I just cant see how tax exempt status for corporations in the health services “relieves or lessens a burden of government,”  when 53% of bankruptcies origins lie in the outrageous cost of healthcare?  Lets all be Dred Scott and be denied constitutional protections to protect the business interests of insurance corporations as the SJC’s decision in Dred Scott vs Sanford perpetuated the slave’s servitude for the economic benefit of the slave owners……&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a suggestion why not amend the tax code and use tax incentives as a means of controlling healthcare prices/costs for the healthcare corporations??    Lets see…….. tax liabilities create the necessity for cost control in most American’s homes!  That is until you get sick can’t work…. lose your insurance, then your home! I just cant see how tax exempt status for corporations in the health services “relieves or lessens a burden of government,”  when 53% of bankruptcies origins lie in the outrageous cost of healthcare?  Lets all be Dred Scott and be denied constitutional protections to protect the business interests of insurance corporations as the SJC’s decision in Dred Scott vs Sanford perpetuated the slave’s servitude for the economic benefit of the slave owners……</p>
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		<title>By: JamesJoyce</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/27/gop-wont-support-a-public-option/comment-page-1/#comment-29487</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesJoyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What people fail to realize is exempt tax status pervasive for many of corporations in the health services is already socialized medicine!  The lack of tax revenue generated by tax exempt corporations like BC/BS, is a subsidy, the tax payers have been paying for decades. Healthcare is already “”socialized”&quot; for the benefit of the corporations who now stand to make trillions by having politicians pass laws &lt;strong&gt;mandating&lt;/strong&gt; that citizens must have insurance, and enter into contracts under fear of tax penalty.    BULLSHIT!!!   Excuse me folks we already have a energy delivery system even the King of England would have be proud today.  Now the GOP some demorats look to sell America out to the tax exempt health services and for profit health insurance, in return for political contribution?  This is corporate servitude shoved down the throat of America as if we the American people are treated like some street whore.  The GOP and  demorats….the hypocrites they are!  Family values go out the window with healthcare bean counters and profiteers at life’s expense.  Your right Jane! “they” are all concerned about…..protecting corporations at the people’s and the republic’s expense!  “They,” inhale very quick!!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What people fail to realize is exempt tax status pervasive for many of corporations in the health services is already socialized medicine!  The lack of tax revenue generated by tax exempt corporations like BC/BS, is a subsidy, the tax payers have been paying for decades. Healthcare is already “”socialized”&quot; for the benefit of the corporations who now stand to make trillions by having politicians pass laws <strong>mandating</strong> that citizens must have insurance, and enter into contracts under fear of tax penalty.    BULLSHIT!!!   Excuse me folks we already have a energy delivery system even the King of England would have be proud today.  Now the GOP some demorats look to sell America out to the tax exempt health services and for profit health insurance, in return for political contribution?  This is corporate servitude shoved down the throat of America as if we the American people are treated like some street whore.  The GOP and  demorats….the hypocrites they are!  Family values go out the window with healthcare bean counters and profiteers at life’s expense.  Your right Jane! “they” are all concerned about…..protecting corporations at the people’s and the republic’s expense!  “They,” inhale very quick!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: larryyoung</title>
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		<dc:creator>larryyoung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Small Business”, which is typically Republican-leaning, should love the public option.   It relieves them from the overhead burden of paying for health insurance for their employees.   It would increase the ability for businesses to hire and thus, decrease the unemployment rate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It would also induce those employees that are near (or past) retirement and that are only working for health benefits, to actually retire.  And thereby freeing up jobs for those coming into the market.   And again, reduce unemployment.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Small Business”, which is typically Republican-leaning, should love the public option.   It relieves them from the overhead burden of paying for health insurance for their employees.   It would increase the ability for businesses to hire and thus, decrease the unemployment rate.</p>
<p>It would also induce those employees that are near (or past) retirement and that are only working for health benefits, to actually retire.  And thereby freeing up jobs for those coming into the market.   And again, reduce unemployment.</p>
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		<title>By: tbsa</title>
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		<dc:creator>tbsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t give a rats ass what the GOP wants.  They already fucked the country up beyond repair.  I don’t want to pay for their lifetime healthcare and all the perks they get for being Congresspeople either.  Why is anyone even paying attention to the insane clown posse?!?&lt;br /&gt;
If the bill doesn’t have a public option then do nothing because without that option we are fucked anyway.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t give a rats ass what the GOP wants.  They already fucked the country up beyond repair.  I don’t want to pay for their lifetime healthcare and all the perks they get for being Congresspeople either.  Why is anyone even paying attention to the insane clown posse?!?<br />
If the bill doesn’t have a public option then do nothing because without that option we are fucked anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: itwasntme</title>
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		<dc:creator>itwasntme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The US population is about 300,000,000. If each person paid $60 per month (as Canada does) that would mean an income to the health care program of about 21.6 billion $ for one year. Figuring out what that would be for ten years has too many zeroes for my adding machine, but it sounds like a lot of money to me!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US population is about 300,000,000. If each person paid $60 per month (as Canada does) that would mean an income to the health care program of about 21.6 billion $ for one year. Figuring out what that would be for ten years has too many zeroes for my adding machine, but it sounds like a lot of money to me!</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you, again, Jane.  That’s right: a credible public option that controls costs the best is single payer.  To bail-out insurance companies from their greed and predatory practices - a la the banksters - is a plan that would cost the most&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Everything government does, everything two or more people do by cooperating together, meets the GOP’s absurd definition of “socialism”.  It’s code for not lining the pockets of private corporations with public money.  If it’s the public’s money, then meeting their needs ought to take priority over private companies.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Had private insurers been less cooperative among themselves, had they not adopted universally rapacious contract terms and processes for dealing with their customers, the public would not need to put their money elsewhere.  They did, they won’t change unless forced to, and we do.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, again, Jane.  That’s right: a credible public option that controls costs the best is single payer.  To bail-out insurance companies from their greed and predatory practices &#8211; a la the banksters &#8211; is a plan that would cost the most</p>
<p>Everything government does, everything two or more people do by cooperating together, meets the GOP’s absurd definition of “socialism”.  It’s code for not lining the pockets of private corporations with public money.  If it’s the public’s money, then meeting their needs ought to take priority over private companies.  </p>
<p>Had private insurers been less cooperative among themselves, had they not adopted universally rapacious contract terms and processes for dealing with their customers, the public would not need to put their money elsewhere.  They did, they won’t change unless forced to, and we do.</p>
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		<title>By: PJEvans</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJEvans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I second that one. It’s very annoying to have someone who ran on ‘change’ fighting it - or having his advisors fighting it, more likely, but &lt;em&gt;he&lt;/em&gt; chose them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second that one. It’s very annoying to have someone who ran on ‘change’ fighting it &#8211; or having his advisors fighting it, more likely, but <em>he</em> chose them.</p>
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		<title>By: Bluetoe2</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/27/gop-wont-support-a-public-option/comment-page-1/#comment-29470</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluetoe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The only one’s interested in pleasing Republicans are Democrats and Obama.  Bipartisanship will be the downfall of the Republic.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only one’s interested in pleasing Republicans are Democrats and Obama.  Bipartisanship will be the downfall of the Republic.</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/27/gop-wont-support-a-public-option/comment-page-1/#comment-29469</link>
		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for that link.  The more time passes, the  more I become convinced that our system of legalized bribery is at the root of the rest of our problems.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that link.  The more time passes, the  more I become convinced that our system of legalized bribery is at the root of the rest of our problems.</p>
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