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A new poll indicates that 76% of Americans overwhelmingly support having a public health care option, but the influence of lobbying money on Congress is making that hope seem remote.
It’s time to change that. Let’s whip for a public plan.
Last week saw the conclusion of a very successful citizen whip effort to get members of Congress to vote against the Supplemental Appropriations Act. We can do it again.
Here’s how it works:
There are 178 Republicans in the House. A House majority is 218. If all of the Republicans agree to vote against something, as they indicate they will on health care, then any 40 Democrats banding together can control the passage of a bill (218 – 178 = 40).
Stated another way: if 40 Democrats in the House say they will not vote for any health care bill that does not have a strong public plan, then they have the same power that a Ben Nelson or an Evan Bayh has had in the Senate to determine the outcome–when every vote was needed to pass something. Every commitment we get in excess of that 40 makes the commitment even more powerful.
We need to get progressive members of Congress to commit that they will not vote for any bill or conference report that does not have a robust public plan that is:
- available nationwide
- available on day one
- and accountable to Congress and the voters
What you can do:
Here’s our Public Plan Whip Tool, with our Hot 100 Progressives in Congress and their phone numbers. Please call their offices and let us know what you hear on the form provided there.
We will be writing about this every day over on FDL’s Campaign Silo. Just as we did during the Supplemental, we’ll publish a chart of where members stand each morning, in addition to moment-by-moment news updates and what people are hearing when they call various offices. You can follow updates on Twitter.
And here’s the BEST news: we’ll be working with Eve Gittelson (nyceve from Daily Kos), who will be joining us over at the Silo and posting updates there, as well as on Kos. Dave Meyer and Marisa McNee from Save the Rich will also be helping us out.
Pretty unbeatable combo, yes?
Why this is important:
Right now the conversation is devoted to "how are we going to appease Kent Conrad?" We can change that. The American public is on our side, and they need to know that Kent Conrad’s co-op plan is just kabuki.
I am not interested in passing health care reform in name only. I am not interested in a bill that allows us to somehow tell our constituents we have done something but doesn’t really address their concerns. We need real reform, and real reform means a strong public option.
We’ve been told that we need to "compromise," because nobody is going to get everything they want. Well, a public plan is the compromise. Single Payer representatives have been shut out of this conversation from the beginning, just to make the insurance industry lobbyists happy.
One hundred members of Congress standing together and demanding a public plan that is a) available nationwide, b) from day one and c) accountable to Congress and the voters can keep Blue Cross from making this nothing more than an insurance industry bailout.
You can give progressive members of Congress the support that they need to do this.




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We want single payer but will compromise to a strong public plan. Anything less is capitulation.
Agreed. But capitulation is one thing our representatives excel at, so any encouragement folks can give them in the other direction will be great!
Jane, what happens if some plan comes out that many rethugs vote for because it does not contain a public option?
Hi All– Just wanted to drop in and say hello. I’ll be here posting and answering questions as we whip the public plan.
The Democrats say they’re committed to having some sort of public plan, but they’re turning to Kent Conrad’s co-op plan as the “compromise.”
Since the GOP say they won’t vote for any sort of public plan, it would have to become something substantially different to get their support.
But every commitment we get over the 40 means it’s that much more likely that no Republican compromise can pass. So, if we get 100 members to commit, Jim Cooper’s “bipartisan compromise” is screwed.
Marisa & Dave did a great job with Save the Rich during the teabagger festivities. Looking forward to having them help us with this.
WHIP IT GOOD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbt30UnzRWw
I don’t have to check the site to know that my congressman is NOT in your top 100 progressives — he’s definitely a Blue Dog. What’s your suggestion to holding his feet to the fire?
I have a personal relationship with him (not BFF’s but he knows me to see me).
You beat me to it.
Thank you FDL! I’m on it. This is really helpful.
Tell him you want a health plan as good as his which you have to pay for.
Right…I think Public Plans will be defeated after Blue Dogs and Republicans remind the public how good the Public Housing, Public Schools, Public Transit, Public Transportation …anything owned by the Public is TERRIBLE. The American people do NOT want their Doctors run by the Public.
Thank you, lilybelle!
One demand is to not allow them to add a provision prohibiting states from passing their own single-payer legislation
Here in California we have Mark Leno’s SB 810 originally introduced by Sheila Kuehl as SB 840 which is now in suspension until next Jan because of Arnold and his neanderthal party holding the state’s budget hostage
bwaaahaaahaaa ! I went there as well
this one’s for (((Jane)))
oh, and some motivation whilst dialing
Welcome Marissa !
oh hell yes, I’m dialin’
I went to public school.
And the American people — 76% of them — want a public plan. Unless I’m missing something?
I think they forgot the snark tag
But I could be wrong
It was not a sucessful “citizen whip” effort on the supplemental. You lost. It’s a win or lose proposition.
This is outstanding — thanks! I’ll keep making a pest of myself until the deed is done. Any Public Plan is still a compromise over single payer, but there are compromises designed to get us there and there are compromises designed to fail. With BCBS coming out against the good compromise, it must be on the right track.
Yes, I think you are. I don’t think they have understood the implications of the “public plan”. Put it in the same sentence as Public Housing or Public Schools or Public Transit and the poll numbers will sink like an anchor….
And I went to both public and private (religious). No question there was a better education in private school
Jane, is there some way to “whip” into the mix/message the overwhelming support in the polls for at least a public option?
It seems to me that one of our tasks is to link our e-mails, calls, etc. to the polls, and remind the Congresscritters that they’ve been “too long inside the Beltway,” listening to each other, compromising, etc.
We should state that our communication to them is a representation of the numbers the polls are showing. Polling —> delivered to their mailbox.
Additionally, as I’ve stated before, I was once on a congressional staff, and it’s NUMBERS [of communication] that matter, NOT the “eloquence” or persuasiveness of the communication itself.
Include the buzzwords [or talking points that you’ve outlined above]; communicate by as many means [phone, fax, letter/postcard, e-mail] as possible [it’s not like they’re going to notice that you sent both an e-mail AND called; they’ll just tally]; communicate TO as many “outlets” as each of your Congresscritters has [home/state offices, as well as just DC]; and get those friends, family, folks at the grocery store, whatever to write in too.
Print up some postcards with the message & carry ‘em with you. Strike up a conversation with the clerk @ the gas station, dry cleaners, person on the bus and, if they seem amenable, hand ‘em a card with the message, pre-addressed to the appropriate Congresscritter. All they have to do is fill in their name, address, etc. Make it easy and whip the vote.
You may have had a better education in YOUR private school than in YOUR public school, but that’s not universally true. I would put my kids’ public school education up against any private school education. Public housing isn’t wonderful, but it beats living on the street. A lot of people don’t have the other options you seem to take for granted. Some public transit is wonderful (think San Francisco’s BART as an example), and it’s certainly better than walking when one doesn’t own a car (and saves gas and reduces pollution). Please don’t paint with such a broad sweeping brush if you expect your arguments to carry any weight. They certainly don’t convince me.
Do I have this right? Your position seems to be:
1]Anything run by government is as f ’ked-up as a stack of coathangers;
2]Privately operated health insurance runs as efficiently and smoothly as a goose’s digestive system; and,
3]A public option for Coathanger Health Insurance will have an unfair competitive advantage over privately operated Goose Health Insurance.
WIthout the snark, about right. Government does National Security well as that as it’s prime function. Everything else, from the semi-privatized (now) post office to the census, the welfare system, the existing funding system is screwed up FUBAR. Private health insurance is by no means perfect, but a lot of tort reform would help so doctors can avoid multiple tests just to avoid lawsuits. That and FDA reform to speed approval of drugs and procedures would help too. Public option WILL destroy private insurance because the Federal Government has the Gun of the IRS to support it, whereas private insurance has to take the mandate of the government and pass on the cost.
My wife is from San Francisco. She told me that BART started as a really nice system but is now trashed in most places like New York subways. Anything owned by the public is owned (and trashed) all as if it were owned by no one. I simply don’t want the government to regulate lives which they will if they control the health care costs. They will enforce obesity and other dietary rules and destroy freedom in the USA.
We’ve got one chickenhawk troll and one libertarian troll. Take your pick.
Hey…Glenn Beck trumps William Ayers any day of the week.
Great action tool! I’ll be using it over at Dailykos in my diaries there. We also have to be careful about any potential bait and switches in the Senate, like pretending Conrad’s co-op plan is a public option (i.e. Maria Cantwell), when it’s not.
Absolutely!! I was thinking it must be field trip day at Troll Summer Camp.
PS: BART is still great. I love the “reasonsing [sic]”: trash in BART stations = no health care for anyone. Does “Regent University” have a doctoral program in logic?
You think government does national security well?
I went to a private (religious) school through fifth grade, then my parents switched me to the public school to get a better education.
My wife’s mother is Canadian so we have a ton of relatives up there and they just laugh if we ask if they would trade their public health care system for our private one. Not one of them would trade.
But yeah, I’m sure the people who ran Enron, AIG, General Motors, Lehman Brothers, etc. can do a much better and more efficient job running our health care than the government that runs Medicare and the VA.
Ummm. The NYC subway is awesome. The 4 train is my train.
I don’t think “DLoerke” needs to fill out any more of his “profile.”
If my reps are not on the list, will I have any effect by calling someone else’s? I don’t think I will.
Just so there is no mistake as to my position, I could not disagree with you more.
It smells really bad.
No…the logic is, trash in BART means Government doctors will be trashy doctors.
It depends. I’ve lived all over the country and have family and friends living all over.
Makes it real easy to tell the folks from other states and congressional districts, that though I may not be a voter in their area, that doesn’t mean I can’t help influence voters in their state/CD.
Then how come every Canadian I talk to when I give lectures there gives me horror stories about waits for service in Toronto. You CAN’T get care in Canada in a timely fashion.
Yes, your call will have an effect
being from Central Texas, I didn’t bother with my critter during the Supplemental Whip Action – called everyone else on the list
what MauiMom says upthread – they look at the volume of calls.
please reconsider and help us all out.
thanks
welcome ! enjoy your work over at Big Orange
Hmmm…. I personally know a LOT of Canadians and none of them have those horror stories. Are you sure you aren’t hearing those stories from a friend of a friend of a friend? ‘Cause it really seems more like an urban legend.
I’d believe some people have to wait for their boob jobs and liposuction, but I doubt anyone who has a real medical need has an unreasonable wait.
I guess it all depends on what you consider unreasonable. For 50 million uninsured Americans, I think “never” is a pretty unreasonable wait.
The school analogy is a good one. Private schools pick and choose their students — of course they can do better with less if you can kick out the kids who do poorly or make trouble (or can’t pay the tuition). Before public schools we had much higher rates of illiteracy and we would not have created the middle class without it. Likewise, private health insurance picks and chooses and occasionally doesn’t kick out their victims policy holders when they get sick. As a result we have huge waits in emergency rooms and a compromised public health system if/when a pandemic hits. BTW we have long waits now and no assurance that the bill will be paid on the other end.
I think http://blog.healthcareforamericanow.org distills the requirements quite nicely:
1. National and available everywhere: A strong public health insurance option will be a national public health insurance program, available in all areas of the country. The insurance industry is made of of conglomerates that have national reach. In order to have the clout to compete with the insurance industry and keep them honest, the public health insurance option must be national as well.
2. Government appointed and accountable: The entire problem with private health insurance is that they aren’t accountable to you or me. A public health insurance option must have a different incentive. A public health insurance option doesn’t have to be a government entity necessarily, but its decision makers must be appointed by government and must be accountable to government.
3. Bargaining clout: The whole point of health reform is to lower health care costs. Clearly, the insurance industry has failed to lower costs when left to their own devices. As the President says, we need a strong public health insurance option to lower rates, change the incentives in our health care system, and keep the industry honest.
4. Ready on day one: The private health insurance industry has utterly failed to control health care costs or provide their customers the quality they’ve paid through the nose for. With one person going bankrupt every 30 seconds due to health care costs, we cannot afford to wait any longer for a real fix. We need the public health insurance option to start lowering prices now. That means no trigger.
Can we co-opt these?
FYI, a lot of people have noted that the form needed a “no position” option. I just added one. Thanks for the forbearance…
http://action.firedoglake.com/page/s/publicoption
Dave
do you have a direct link to that list? It might just be easier to link to it on the action page.
And you have plenty of Socialists and extremists that despise America too. Guess that makes it about even.
What a shame that you are such an extremist that you can’t countenance an opposing point-of-view.
Why isn’t Eric Massa D NY on the list?
And why isn’t Lloyd Doggett of TX on the list?
Just got off the ph with Difi’s sf office. “Jared” answered. I asked specifically what DiFi’s position on publicly funded health care is since there has been a lot of chatter on the Internet. Jared says ( clearly reading form a prep statement) ” The Senator is open to a publicly funded health care plan, but there is nothing out yet so she can take no official position.”
Wishy washy at best but at least it wasn’t a NOT GOING TO VOTE NO answer.
Woolsey is my rep. She is first and foremost in support of a single payer universal plan – period! Yay Lynn!! I wanna vote twice for her.
Rus
Aha! I noted the same thing, with the same question- why isn’t he on the list, and sent an email to Eric Massa (or staff?) with links from FDL (same question). !
This one needs to go national. Once it is off the ground, you need to team with Huffington Post to get the widest broadcast. It will be a “winner” for the repugs to vote no time and again, further alienating 70% of the population.
Of course, the one flaw is that 40 dems can crumbel, come out and say “absolutely not” to any public health care plan, in which case they effectively join the party of Bush and Nixon.
I think a public option doesn’t kill a bill if it also includes the Exchange (marketplace) to assist the uninsured (some of whom will pick private insurers) and an employer mandate which will insure more individuals (insurers will love that).
As with any kind of legislation which is complicated the devil is in the details.
I think the House bill is pretty good and the Senate will probably make it even better. But first, as you indicate, let’s get the House bill passed!
Hopefully the final product will prevent ANY insurers (private or gov’t) from interfering with the patient-doctor relationship. We really need them to butt out to simplify the life of everyone and for the system to save money (on insurance doctors and paperwork people).
I don’t think the House bill has anything like that. If I remember right it does have one interesting state-related idea, that the Exchange can be run by a state for it’s in-state insurers. I’m not clear on the advantage of that, but it’s an option they’ll have.
That’s where it matters how they define the gov’t public option. If it is comparable to private insurers, then without the need for profit it would have a considerable advantage. If the plan is limited to a bare-bones basic plan then the field will still be largely open to private insurers who will want to offer a variety of plans.
In the House bill I think the public option is described as ‘basic’. If the Senate isn’t secure with that wording they can add something more explicit to prevent it becoming a hydra.
There’s only the same doctors we have (and are producing) today. The House bill provides for more money for medical school slots, but they’ll be educated by the same institutions. The public option only insurance insurance, not the care part.
If we prevent insurers from interfering it should actually speed up care here in America. Less paperwork and interference has to go faster.
Jane,
I’ve been working on Sen. Amy Klobuchar. Phoenix Woman suggested I leave the link to my post asking people to call Sen. Klobuchar.
http://www.mnprogressiveprojec…..lic-option
I don’t know if you have a Senate thread or not.
I think the possibility exists that if 40 progressives vote no on a Conrad proposal, 40 Republicans may switch to yes just to let is pass and say “We were involved in bipartisan reform and the liberals weren’t”
The risk is there, but like I said, politics isn’t without it’s risks.