Jim Himes bristles at the notion that he’s a corporatist, or that his statistics come from wingnuts like Pete Peterson who cherry pick them for the purpose of dismantling Social Security:
Medicare and Social Security have bettered the lives of hundreds of millions. They are integral to our being a just and enlightened society. They also, as currently configured, represent substantial unfunded liabilities. The present value of future Medicare and Social Security obligations are roughly $40 trillion and $8 trillion, respectively (sensitive to scenarios, of course). These are not contradictory facts. They can be, and are, all true at the same time. In fact, the long term preservation of these programs depends on our acknowledging their glide paths and making the adjustments necessary to improve their economic sustainability.
"Sensitive to scenarios," of course. His "scenario" just happens to be the one drawn by Pete Peterson, a hedge fund billionaire who got rich because he didn’t have to pay his taxes. Hedge fund managers are taxed at a rate of 15%, while ordinary Americans are taxed at 35%. Conservative estimates put lost annual revenue at $6 billion.
But as long as we’re talking about facts, here’s a couple. Social Security takes in more than it pays out by about $100 billion per year. That surplus is accumulated in the form of government bonds. When Himes talks about the "unfunded liabilities" of Social Security, he presumes the government is going to default on those bonds — but he doesn’t mention that.
So, maybe Jim should just be a bit more specific when spouting statistics about the future, and think about citing his sources. Wednesday he said this:
the massive unfunded liabilities associated with Social Security and Medicare (now well in excess of $50 trillion)
And by Thursday that debt is already shrinking:
The present value of future Medicare and Social Security obligations are roughly $40 trillion and $8 trillion, respectively (sensitive to scenarios, of course).
Why not add the details of these particular "scenarios"? Why not say "projected out to the year 2075 even though Social Security presently takes in $100 billion more than it pays out, if and only if the government defaults on its promise to pay that money back?"
Because I’m sure we’d all like to know that a US congressman is projecting that the government plans to default on the $2.4 trillion in treasury bonds held by the Social Security trust fund while Pete Peterson still doesn’t pay his taxes.
As Jon Kantrowitz said over at My Left Nutmeg, "I guess you are really worried about being re-elected. But this is not why I voted for you."





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I’ve been meaning to dig up that business where he gutted his own bill to make AIG bonuses performance based.
Lemme see. Here it is:
http://firedoglake.com/2009/04…..p-bonuses/
That was a nice piece of kabuki.
Scare tactics are all they got.
We’re already spending over $2 Trillion a year on health care. Currently it’s not all funneled through the government, but it’s still coming out of our pockets.
If the government can provide universal coverage for $1.5 Trillion that’s saving $500,000,000,000. But all we get are the scary headlines that some new plan will cost us SOOOOOO much money.
I’m really getting pretty livid over the way this health care reform seems to be shaping up.
Gig’em, Jane! Seems like we’re gonna need a whole raft of progressives to primary the new/blue dogshit dems. Himes is from CT. Is he close by Lamont?
Meanwhile, here’s a House bill that has the public option:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/…..lic-Option!
And some toll-free numbers:
Capitol Hill 800-828-0498
1-800-828-0498
1-866-338-1015
1-866-220-0044
1-877-851-6437
My how the mighty have fallen that used to be a term of respect for very Serious People.
Both are from Greenwich.
Perhaps Mr. Himes should consider not *acting* like one then.
“economic sustainability” – too funny. The one program that is currently sustainable, and Himes wants to imply that it’s not. Real trillions stuffed into investment houses, and he wants to reduce the paltry safety net for millions.
Your point about the current capital-gains tax rate is well made, but, additionally, you can also challenge the current cap on SSI tax with respect to income level.
As Einstein said, the most powerful force in the universe is compound interest.
And, used to make long-term predictions, it can lead to massive FAIL.
Although he’s an old Goldman hand, perhaps Jim could use a refresher course.
This is not why I donated to Jim Himes’ campaign. But I have to say – I was worried about his MOTU background despite all the good things he’s also done since then.
Ok lets take him at his word now then did he vote to fund the war and put us in more debt? Is he in favor of Single Payer or is he for America wasting more money on Healthcare?
Doofus.
Emptywheel has a new post up on the front page: “Froomkin’s Sins of the Village”
I trust you don’t mean me:)
J Himes..cartoonish ass. He gets the Homer choke..”why you little”. heh
Here’s a European trade union view of the tax privilege attending leveraged debt:
LOL. No, Himes.
If you hadn’t mentioned, I was going to. Himes spent more than 10 years at Goldman Sachs. Once a Goldman boy always a Goldman boy.
And yes, all of this talk about reforming Social Security is about the government defaulting on its commitment to make up shortfalls in the system from 2017 to 2040, shortfalls which 35 years of Social Security surpluses were supposed to pay for. Now that bill is coming due when the surpluses end in 2017, Himes and his guys want to welch on their commitment. It is why I have called the surpluses a hidden tax on lower and middle class Americans. That money is spent and long gone. Even if the 2017 to 2040 commitments to SS were fully funded, it would be the American taxpayer who would end up paying (in higher taxes) what ostensibly that taxpayer had already paid for in the preceding 35 years (1982-2017). This was always an enormous scam. Now people like Himes want to distract us and sell us on the notion that it is the system’s fault and not generations of greedy, scheming politicians.