You have no point, except to be a mouthpiece. Flat out – how much does it pay? I mean it – How much?

Any real Liberal, any real Progressive, any real citizen would not resort to such gross name-calling as a defense of their political stance – they could let the ideas carry their arguments, carry their position, without resorting to slurs and slanderous charges of anti-Americanism, as you have.

You are a flack for Rahm Emanuel, likely not worth anyone’s time. There is no dialog to be had with a brick wall.

What they see is a way to force everyone to buy the crap pseudo-coverage that you get from infomercials… or make the government buy it for you if you are unemployed etc.

THEY HAVE DETERMINED THAT THIS IS ALL THAT THEY WILL OFFER UNDER ANY VERSION OF A “PUBLIC PLAN”

The corporate Dems will promise that “Of course we won’t allow that! There will be, like, controls and regulations and stuff!” … and they will be lying. And they will know they are lying.

And the rest of the Dems will acquiesce.

So no. Obama will not do health care reform.

And we’ll still be in Iraq and Afghanistan come 2011 “But this time we’ll be out real soon now!”

And the self-admitted war criminals will still be walking free.

And the behemoth banking clusterfucks will be gleefully trying to inflate the next bubble even as Obama’s foolish pre-election anti-stimulus “compromise” bills on behalf of Rethugs Inc. send the country deeper into depression.

And the corporations will still be throttling effective climate control change after the Arctic ice cap disappears for the summer.

And then 2011 with Daily Kos triumphantly blasting “Hey! It’s the corporate Dems or crazed Rethug wingnuts salivating for another go!… Choose!”

The prospects are not hopeless, but they are not good.

Emergency venting complete.

BTW… sure, [s]Rahm’s clerk[/s] -er- redfish is stupid enough to wave around a badly flawed Gallup poll… and Emanuel as well… but Obama? That ignorant?

that’s a regular knee-slapper. of course he won’t whip for a public option. in fact, i’ll lay odds that whatever bill gets passed and signed into law will be worse than if no law had been passed to begin with.

http://www.calculatedriskblog……nment.html

The eye opener for me was that nearly half of the credit so far extended ($3.2 trillion) has been to money markets. Even stranger is that this is an estimate because, apparently, the people at Treasury don’t even know how much they have lent out. This raises the question though of what the government and the money markets have been doing with this money. I have kept hearing that money markets have something like $4 trillion on the sidelines that the government was hoping to use to re-inflate the economy. Is all of this money simply money the government itself gave to the MMs? I don’t know what the story is but there certainly seems to be a story there.

The way I see it, the government already pays for all those who end up in the hospital or the emergency room through one program or another. Except, of course, for those people who do not complete the proper paperwork for the government to compensate the hospital room or ER, in which case the entity providing the service eats their bill. Ultimately, we all pay anyway, so the only difference is, under one scenario, all contribute; under the other scenario, only those that have been willing to submit to the system pay. Frequently, the young and healthy are unwilling or at least wary about submitting to the system until/unless they need it. Then they, like everyone else, is there with their hands out saying that common decency and just by virtue of the fact that they’re human they are “entitled” to medical assistance when they need it, just as they may need a safety net with food and perhaps shelter in it. So they avail themselves of those safety net measures which our society has decided are right and good, like social security, like unemployment compensation, like food stamps, aid to dependent children, medicaid, public schools, even the interstate road system. Then they go out and rail against a society that is “socialized,” like that’s a bad thing. Too bad people don’t realize that “socialized” means more highly civilized. Too bad people today don’t seem to have time to ponder what it means to be civilized. Some of us don’t seem to care to evolve!