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	<title>Comments on: Just Four Votes Away &#8212; It&#8217;s Crunch Time!</title>
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		<title>By: MaineOwl</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/15/just-four-votes-away-its-crunch-time/#comment-27955</link>
		<dc:creator>MaineOwl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;At best, huh? Must say I don’t care for the way you argue, redfish.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Actually to clarify, my figure combines data from two different casualty estimates. And you’re right, I definitely misquoted the time period involved. The first is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=21440&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HERE&lt;/a&gt;. If you add all that up, you’ll get since January 2006: 14 al-Qaeda leaders and 687 civilians killed. That’s one al-Qaeda to 49 civilians killed, a 98% rate of civilian casualties. The figure of 15,000 is all civilians killed due to U.S. attacks, bombings, mistakes, destruction of wedding parties, and other military operations in Afghanistan and Pakistan since 2001. The error bar easily could be 5,000 in either direction, but you’ll see a similar number in many places. To account for what I wrote above, I had the now six-week-old Pakistan military offensive the has displaced one million and killed an unknown number in my mind. I apologize for the confusion.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At best, huh? Must say I don’t care for the way you argue, redfish.</p>
<p>Actually to clarify, my figure combines data from two different casualty estimates. And you’re right, I definitely misquoted the time period involved. The first is <a href="http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=21440" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>. If you add all that up, you’ll get since January 2006: 14 al-Qaeda leaders and 687 civilians killed. That’s one al-Qaeda to 49 civilians killed, a 98% rate of civilian casualties. The figure of 15,000 is all civilians killed due to U.S. attacks, bombings, mistakes, destruction of wedding parties, and other military operations in Afghanistan and Pakistan since 2001. The error bar easily could be 5,000 in either direction, but you’ll see a similar number in many places. To account for what I wrote above, I had the now six-week-old Pakistan military offensive the has displaced one million and killed an unknown number in my mind. I apologize for the confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Neanderthal7</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neanderthal7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Redfish:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The war in Afghanistan is a war of imperialism? Really?&lt;br /&gt;
Yes! Really! War is illegal. Not only is it illegal because of the UN Charter, it is illegal because of Nurenberg and Dachau; But it is also illegal because of Briand-Kellog Pact of 1928?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; I wonder if you would feel that way if your family member jumped to their death from the 102nd floor of the WTC with their skin melting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;About jumping, when the Reichstag was destroyed back when, it turned out that it was Hitler that did it according to William Shirer who read the top secret german documents after Hitler killed himself. But at the time, Germany found proof that it was some slep jew that did burned it down. Does that sound familiar? The WTC was blamed on Osama and George Bush blamed him…and the Commission blamed him, but I think it was an inside job done by some of the ghouls in our own government.&lt;br /&gt;
Would you believe anything GW Bush said? I wouldn’t. My name for GW is AM. AMBUSH.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, please get your facts straight. The Nuremberg Trials was a legal proceeding to try Nazi war criminals, it didn’t make law for the world. And no one ever made war illegal. There are just wars.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tell that to the supreme court. They ruled that anyone who engages in war is engaging in organized crime. Justice Robert Jackson of the SCOTUS made that based on international law. You know what that means. Anybody working in Abu Ghahib and in afghanistan and in Guantanamo and in Iraq…they are all war criminals. Do you know why they still go after Germans to this day?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Redfish:</p>
<p>The war in Afghanistan is a war of imperialism? Really?<br />
Yes! Really! War is illegal. Not only is it illegal because of the UN Charter, it is illegal because of Nurenberg and Dachau; But it is also illegal because of Briand-Kellog Pact of 1928?</p>
<p> I wonder if you would feel that way if your family member jumped to their death from the 102nd floor of the WTC with their skin melting.</p>
<p>About jumping, when the Reichstag was destroyed back when, it turned out that it was Hitler that did it according to William Shirer who read the top secret german documents after Hitler killed himself. But at the time, Germany found proof that it was some slep jew that did burned it down. Does that sound familiar? The WTC was blamed on Osama and George Bush blamed him…and the Commission blamed him, but I think it was an inside job done by some of the ghouls in our own government.<br />
Would you believe anything GW Bush said? I wouldn’t. My name for GW is AM. AMBUSH.</p>
<p>Also, please get your facts straight. The Nuremberg Trials was a legal proceeding to try Nazi war criminals, it didn’t make law for the world. And no one ever made war illegal. There are just wars.</p>
<p>Tell that to the supreme court. They ruled that anyone who engages in war is engaging in organized crime. Justice Robert Jackson of the SCOTUS made that based on international law. You know what that means. Anybody working in Abu Ghahib and in afghanistan and in Guantanamo and in Iraq…they are all war criminals. Do you know why they still go after Germans to this day?</p>
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		<title>By: john in sacramento</title>
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		<dc:creator>john in sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hate to give them attention but … I have a suspicion&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Be honest &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Are you from Houston? Or better yet Clear lake? Have you ever lived in either city? Does, or did, your best friend live in Virginia? Does CVN 65 ring a bell?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate to give them attention but … I have a suspicion</p>
<p>Be honest </p>
<p>Are you from Houston? Or better yet Clear lake? Have you ever lived in either city? Does, or did, your best friend live in Virginia? Does CVN 65 ring a bell?</p>
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		<title>By: oldtree</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldtree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;deadfish don’t have votes.  Allow the troll to spew, it is after all, their only hope.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>deadfish don’t have votes.  Allow the troll to spew, it is after all, their only hope.</p>
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		<title>By: redfish</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/15/just-four-votes-away-its-crunch-time/#comment-27658</link>
		<dc:creator>redfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;At best you are misinformed. At worst, you are dishonest. You say that there were 14,700 defenseless civilians killed since April 2009? In less than two months? Kindly present your link to factually substantiate this.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;“The UN Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA) reported that 2,118 civilians were killed as a result of armed conflict in Afghanistan in the entire year of 2008″.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;“The Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission (AIHRC) estimates the number of civilians killed as a result of the armed hostilities in 2008 at around 1,800, with about 1,000 killed by militant groups and about 800 killed by U.S.-led military forces”.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At best you are misinformed. At worst, you are dishonest. You say that there were 14,700 defenseless civilians killed since April 2009? In less than two months? Kindly present your link to factually substantiate this.</p>
<p><em>“The UN Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA) reported that 2,118 civilians were killed as a result of armed conflict in Afghanistan in the entire year of 2008″.</em></p>
<p><em>“The Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission (AIHRC) estimates the number of civilians killed as a result of the armed hostilities in 2008 at around 1,800, with about 1,000 killed by militant groups and about 800 killed by U.S.-led military forces”.</em></p>
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		<title>By: MaineOwl</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/15/just-four-votes-away-its-crunch-time/#comment-27657</link>
		<dc:creator>MaineOwl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;confronting Al Qaeda and their Taliban enablers&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of 15,000 casualties reported in “AfPak” since April, 98% have been defenseless civilians. The U.S. potentially has many additional allies in the region if it would stop dropping bombs on people’s heads using diabolic remote-control killing machines. So why is creating degrees of bloody chaos preferable? In one word: imperialism.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>confronting Al Qaeda and their Taliban enablers</em></p>
<p>Of 15,000 casualties reported in “AfPak” since April, 98% have been defenseless civilians. The U.S. potentially has many additional allies in the region if it would stop dropping bombs on people’s heads using diabolic remote-control killing machines. So why is creating degrees of bloody chaos preferable? In one word: imperialism.</p>
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		<title>By: redfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>redfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You can demean me personally all you want. It is high time Liberal Democrats that support Barack Obama and value a Democratic majority in Congress take you on! You are doing this country a grave disservice and I resnt it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can demean me personally all you want. It is high time Liberal Democrats that support Barack Obama and value a Democratic majority in Congress take you on! You are doing this country a grave disservice and I resnt it.</p>
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		<title>By: archiebird</title>
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		<dc:creator>archiebird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just called Keith Ellison’s office and the person who answered confirmed to me that Mr. Ellison WILL BE VOTING NO on the supplemental.  anyone care to back me up on that?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just called Keith Ellison’s office and the person who answered confirmed to me that Mr. Ellison WILL BE VOTING NO on the supplemental.  anyone care to back me up on that?</p>
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		<title>By: Mauimom</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/15/just-four-votes-away-its-crunch-time/#comment-27652</link>
		<dc:creator>Mauimom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Do not feed . . .  who comes not to “share” but to exhibit his/her 23-year old “wisdom” with condescention &amp; extreme conviction of his/her “rightness.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lecturing included for free.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not feed . . .  who comes not to “share” but to exhibit his/her 23-year old “wisdom” with condescention &amp; extreme conviction of his/her “rightness.”</p>
<p>Lecturing included for free.</p>
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		<title>By: Mauimom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mauimom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ed Markey???  He should know better.  I hope there are some Californians in here to call him.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As stated on a previous thread, I e-mailed Paul Hodes’ office [a difficult task if you don’t reside in his district] and pointed out that he was oh-so-glad to solicit and receive my financial support [ActBlue; Blue America], so perhaps he’d like to support “us” now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed Markey???  He should know better.  I hope there are some Californians in here to call him.</p>
<p>As stated on a previous thread, I e-mailed Paul Hodes’ office [a difficult task if you don’t reside in his district] and pointed out that he was oh-so-glad to solicit and receive my financial support [ActBlue; Blue America], so perhaps he’d like to support “us” now.</p>
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