Comments on: Supplemental: Why Must Progressive Members of Congress Grovel For the Blue Dogs? http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/supplemental-why-must-progressive-members-of-congress-bow-for-the-blue-dogs/ Politics for liberal newsgeeks Sat, 18 Feb 2012 01:33:20 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: robspierre http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/supplemental-why-must-progressive-members-of-congress-bow-for-the-blue-dogs/#comment-26996 robspierre Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:32:23 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/supplemental-why-must-progressive-members-of-congress-bow-for-the-blue-dogs/#comment-26996 <p>I have gone along with the “better-than-the-alternative” and “sausage-making” arguments for tolerating turncoat Democrats all of my adult life, and I am tired of it. If the result is always the same, the alternatives are the same too, not worse. </p> <p>Our caucuses were angry and liberal. Our county convention was heavily diluted, lukewarm moderate. Our Governor, Senators, and my local Congresswoman are all among the worst of the corporate bluedog set. All for war, banks, and guns. </p> <p>I have stopped giving money to the party and haven’t renewed my membership. Protest votes and third parties are next. My take on sausage-making? When you discover that the sausage has been made with a dirty grinder, the only thing to do is to throw out the meat, sterilize and start over with fresh.</p> <p>And I suspect I am not alone. </p> <p>If it keeps up as it has been, the party may soon find that the size of its majority and the death of the Republican party have both been greatly exaggerated. Does anyone else remember when Jimmy Carter’s brand of faith-based, Southern-oriented realpolitik was the safe way to beat the Repubs? And how surprised the establishment was when union members and working folks voted for Reagan? </p> <p>The only plus is that I sincerely hope that people will stay disgusted with the Republicans even as dump the Democrats.</p> I have gone along with the “better-than-the-alternative” and “sausage-making” arguments for tolerating turncoat Democrats all of my adult life, and I am tired of it. If the result is always the same, the alternatives are the same too, not worse.

Our caucuses were angry and liberal. Our county convention was heavily diluted, lukewarm moderate. Our Governor, Senators, and my local Congresswoman are all among the worst of the corporate bluedog set. All for war, banks, and guns.

I have stopped giving money to the party and haven’t renewed my membership. Protest votes and third parties are next. My take on sausage-making? When you discover that the sausage has been made with a dirty grinder, the only thing to do is to throw out the meat, sterilize and start over with fresh.

And I suspect I am not alone.

If it keeps up as it has been, the party may soon find that the size of its majority and the death of the Republican party have both been greatly exaggerated. Does anyone else remember when Jimmy Carter’s brand of faith-based, Southern-oriented realpolitik was the safe way to beat the Repubs? And how surprised the establishment was when union members and working folks voted for Reagan?

The only plus is that I sincerely hope that people will stay disgusted with the Republicans even as dump the Democrats.

]]> By: yellowsnapdragon http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/supplemental-why-must-progressive-members-of-congress-bow-for-the-blue-dogs/#comment-26980 yellowsnapdragon Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:17:23 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/supplemental-why-must-progressive-members-of-congress-bow-for-the-blue-dogs/#comment-26980 <p>Yep. What a huge disappointment. Not totally unexpected, but so very disappointing.</p> Yep. What a huge disappointment. Not totally unexpected, but so very disappointing.

]]> By: SaltinWound http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/supplemental-why-must-progressive-members-of-congress-bow-for-the-blue-dogs/#comment-26979 SaltinWound Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:15:40 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/supplemental-why-must-progressive-members-of-congress-bow-for-the-blue-dogs/#comment-26979 <p>We should be supporting members of Congress who are willing to run the risk of not being reelected rather than sacrifice their principles. Rahm isn’t forcing anyone to do anything.</p> We should be supporting members of Congress who are willing to run the risk of not being reelected rather than sacrifice their principles. Rahm isn’t forcing anyone to do anything.

]]> By: alank http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/supplemental-why-must-progressive-members-of-congress-bow-for-the-blue-dogs/#comment-26978 alank Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:08:06 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/supplemental-why-must-progressive-members-of-congress-bow-for-the-blue-dogs/#comment-26978 <p>Is Rahm Cheney’s replacement in the fourth branch of government?</p> Is Rahm Cheney’s replacement in the fourth branch of government?

]]> By: cbl2 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/supplemental-why-must-progressive-members-of-congress-bow-for-the-blue-dogs/#comment-26977 cbl2 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:07:12 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/supplemental-why-must-progressive-members-of-congress-bow-for-the-blue-dogs/#comment-26977 <p>that would be the same Pelosi who (no doubt with Rahm) employed <a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/25/the-upcoming-iraq-supplemental-putting-the-squeeze-on-progressives/" rel="nofollow">The Devil’s Arithmetic</a> allowing more US Military Personnel to be killed or wounded just so they could have their groovy hopey-changey election</p> that would be the same Pelosi who (no doubt with Rahm) employed The Devil’s Arithmetic allowing more US Military Personnel to be killed or wounded just so they could have their groovy hopey-changey election

]]> By: SouthernDragon http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/supplemental-why-must-progressive-members-of-congress-bow-for-the-blue-dogs/#comment-26976 SouthernDragon Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:07:03 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/supplemental-why-must-progressive-members-of-congress-bow-for-the-blue-dogs/#comment-26976 <p>Primary every son-of-a-bitch that votes for the supplemental. Or doesn’t support single payer. Or “just wants to move forward” instead of investigating the past 8 torture-filled years. Oh, and the DCCC and DSCC can kiss my ass in the county square at high noon.</p> Primary every son-of-a-bitch that votes for the supplemental. Or doesn’t support single payer. Or “just wants to move forward” instead of investigating the past 8 torture-filled years. Oh, and the DCCC and DSCC can kiss my ass in the county square at high noon.

]]> By: dosido http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/supplemental-why-must-progressive-members-of-congress-bow-for-the-blue-dogs/#comment-26975 dosido Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:03:27 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/supplemental-why-must-progressive-members-of-congress-bow-for-the-blue-dogs/#comment-26975 <p>Hi all, village idiot here. I don’t understand why real dems have to vote like repukes to give DINOs cover. Why don’t the DINOs just go all the way and change parties, like snarlin’ arlen did? </p> <p>These pols would do well to remember they were voted in by their constituents, not Rahm. If Blue Dogs have to vote like Blue Dogs, aren’t their constituents going to like it anyway, if that’s what they voted for them to do?</p> Hi all, village idiot here. I don’t understand why real dems have to vote like repukes to give DINOs cover. Why don’t the DINOs just go all the way and change parties, like snarlin’ arlen did?

These pols would do well to remember they were voted in by their constituents, not Rahm. If Blue Dogs have to vote like Blue Dogs, aren’t their constituents going to like it anyway, if that’s what they voted for them to do?

]]> By: cbl2 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/supplemental-why-must-progressive-members-of-congress-bow-for-the-blue-dogs/#comment-26974 cbl2 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:02:58 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/supplemental-why-must-progressive-members-of-congress-bow-for-the-blue-dogs/#comment-26974 <p>thanks. yeah I knew that but was thinking along the lines of Boxturtle’s comment above - they are all fairly safe (the biggies seem to have Labor at their back) and supplanting them or attempting to supplant them with Blue Dogs would set off a full metal Heathers conflagration</p> thanks. yeah I knew that but was thinking along the lines of Boxturtle’s comment above – they are all fairly safe (the biggies seem to have Labor at their back) and supplanting them or attempting to supplant them with Blue Dogs would set off a full metal Heathers conflagration

]]> By: punaise http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/supplemental-why-must-progressive-members-of-congress-bow-for-the-blue-dogs/#comment-26973 punaise Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:02:21 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/supplemental-why-must-progressive-members-of-congress-bow-for-the-blue-dogs/#comment-26973 <p>from left field - where is Pelosi on this? they’re peeping their “cowed her” dry.</p> from left field – where is Pelosi on this? they’re peeping their “cowed her” dry.

]]> By: dcblogger http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/supplemental-why-must-progressive-members-of-congress-bow-for-the-blue-dogs/#comment-26972 dcblogger Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:02:07 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/06/09/supplemental-why-must-progressive-members-of-congress-bow-for-the-blue-dogs/#comment-26972 <p>And to think that Obama was elected on an anti war platform.</p> And to think that Obama was elected on an anti war platform.

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