if he’s counting on rove/Cheney/bush he’s got no prayer, they are discredited day by day, the more the republicans allow these people as their spokespeople the more the republican party descends an abyss that becomes more and more like the whig party, never to return

I am hoping the real concervatives, (not radicals claiming their values are concervative) begin a new party using some progressive positions

a “constitutional party” to which they will abhor the direction of our unitary president, pre-emptive war and exporting our economy overseas

a real concervative party will actually conserve, conserve the environment, conceiver labor power against oligarchy, conserve our Constitution, etc.

but the larger picture pw, suppose pawlenty doesn’t sign and insists on waiting for a supreme court direction, (to which they will stall as long as possible as well), what options are left to the democrats?

ps, ever notice “pawlenty” sounds like a conjugation of “palin”?

just saying

Thanks PW.

I think both Coleman and Pawlenty are once-useful GOP tools that have been discarded. Maybe they patched things up because they share the bond of being party patsies that have been dumped.

I don’t think Pawlenty is batshit crazy enough for the R’s to want him to run for prez.
Too bad that Bachmann doesn’t appear, so far, to have ambitions to run for governor. That would be loads of fun.

Thing is, they have money and friends — namely, the oil industry. Anyone who gets their blessing can be guaranteed to have backing sufficient to at least make a strong primary stand, strong enough to rate at least the number-two spot on a presidential ticket. The big question is whether Pawlenty can keep his associates as well-hidden as they hid themselves for Bush in 1999-2000.

Oh, I don’t know about that. He married an evangelical and learned to talk or at least fake the lingo, as he showed in his presscon yesterday. He could very well be their latest Bush: A guy who looks at first glance like he might be compassionate and sane, but whose smiling face masks a hardcore conservative agenda.

But yes, I would love it if Bachmann ran. She would at a minimum force Marty Seifert — the current House Republican leader and the most likely Republican to try to take Pawlenty’s place — to be even more unappetizingly right-wing than he already is simply to hold the batshit-crazy primary voters, which would kill his chances in the general.

With regard to out-of-state rubber chicken circuit expeditions, it’s fascinating that “I’m not running for re-election” quickly becomes “I’m not hanging around to do the job you elected me to for the next nineteen months.”

Yesterday on tweety’s show, he asked pat buchanan and lawrence o’donnell about pawlenty, mittster, and palin!

Pat still loves his Palin doll, thinks Mitts in good position too. hahahaha. O’Donnell said Mitt is a proven loser and Palin is a joke. hahahahaha.

I’m wondering whether he would face impeachment by the legislature if he outright refuses to obey a court order on the certification?

Well PW, how far can you throw him? That is how far you can trust him.

What about this news that Coleman’s considering a gov run? Assuming it’s just a trial balloon, doesn’t that open up the “bow out gracefully” strategy that Coleman (and his backers) need to end the Senate contest? One assumes they do have an end-game in mind.

I don’t see Hapless Harry Reid doing any thing about this.

Since he’s one of the few GOPs to appear on her show, Rachel Maddow characterized Smilin’ Tim as a “moderate” last night, but Chris Hayes quickly disabused her of that notion, calling him a hardline doctrinaire conservative.

Mitt: Third place on the losing team.

He’ll hate being called a loser; we should do it often.

Bush masked a hardcore RADICAL agenda which had nothing to do with conservatism except everyone equates GOP with conservative much the same way everyone equated Democrat with conservative in the south during Reconstruction.

We need to start using a new meme when we talk about these people. They aren’t conservatives, they don’t want what’s best for this country. They want what’s best for their favorite rich group eschewing whatever might be good or useful for the rest of the country.

I call them radicals now when I speak with people, radicals who want to turn the clock back to the days when blacks and poor whites couldn’t vote, when women had to literally risk their lives to terminate a pregnancy that might be killing them, when people like Jay Cooke, JP Morgan, and August Belmont got everything they wanted by carrying congressmen and local politicians around in their pockets.

The revolution in society that was advocated by the Weather Underground, SDS, the Black Panther Party, and others that so many of the right wing nutjobs refer to when they point back to the 60s was nothing compared to what these fuckers have done to the country in the past generation.

And let us not forget the ultimate loser, Palin.

IMO, McCrazy would have done better without her on the ticket.

OK, Jane has DiFi upstairs at the Mothership!
Feinstein Bailing on EFCA? Or Lazy Journalists Asking the Wrong Questions?

Note that the MN SC pinged the US Senate in their questions the other day – saying something like “our opinion is just advisory; the decision about seating Franken is up to the US Senate”.

If the MN SC finds for Franken, my guess is that Pawlenty won’t sign, then Franken will ask the MN SC to order Pawlenty to sign, the MN SC will do so, then Pawlenty will sign. If he doesn’t, even if he’s not impeached by the MN legislature, he will be in contempt of court and should go to jail.

Yupper. “Moderate” is not a synonym for “smiles a lot”. But this is just the sort of way that Pawlenty hopes to fool the general public while dog-whistling like mad to the GOP base. In other words, it’s the Bush 2000 playbook.

I’m sure they won’t do it, but if I were a judge on MN SC right now, I’d issue a writ of mandamus along with the opinion.

But I suspect that Pawlenty-O’Nuttin’ will refuse to sign the certificate, because the court battles aren’t finished yet. Then Franken will have to go to court in Minnesota to have a writ of mandamus issued.

PW, you are probably right about “smiles a lot”. He is a snake with forked tongue & a shape shifter.
He really creeps me out whenever I see him talking about cutting where it hurts people the most. He has this smirky smile on his face that looks like pure enjoyment to me.

Just heard on MPR that Seifert is quitting as minority leader. Morrie Lanning [former Moorhead mayor] saying locally he’s interested in gub run.

Methinks T-Paw should find a welcoming committee of picketers in every city and hamlet on the RNC rubber chicken circuit he shows up in the next two years.

the Bush 2000 playbook, complete with “leaves state in fiscal chaos and the poorest of the poor in dire straits” on his resume. What is it about Rethug gubs…

Since he’s one of the few GOPs to appear on her show, Rachel Maddow characterized Smilin’ Tim as a “moderate” last night, but Chris Hayes quickly disabused her of that notion, calling him a hardline doctrinaire conservative.

That may well be, but Tim has a disarming way of ingratiating himself to the “other side.” It wouldn’t surprise me, and is my theory that Timmy boy will do exactly what he says he will do, that is, if and/or when asked by the State Supreme Court, he will sign the certification of Franken as the new Jr. Senator from MN. Then, at the rate Obama is appointing Rethugs to positions within his administration, and having ingratiated himself to the powers that be, he becomes the new (appt. to choice of post to be announced). Does he have standing to become an US Atty? Has that post been filled yet? Any other posts he would be likely to fit into? Ambassadorships, etc.?

PW-I trust you’re on top of this…

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