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	<title>Comments on: Franken-Coleman Update, 03/6/09 (PM Edition): Franken Wins By Losing</title>
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		<title>By: SpaceLobster</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpaceLobster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And, in the meantime Franken’s old nemesis Rush is back and, at least physically, bigger than ever…, i.e. he is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tv1.com/playlists/369&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;still a big fat idiot&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, in the meantime Franken’s old nemesis Rush is back and, at least physically, bigger than ever…, i.e. he is <a href="http://www.tv1.com/playlists/369" rel="nofollow">still a big fat idiot</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Am I right in thinking that this case is not yet before the Minnesota Supreme Court? So we will have to wait for the disposition of a probably Coleman appeal to them before the certificate is issued?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Correct it is in the contest or trial phase, Coleman’s side has presented its case in chief, Franken is one week into his.  Elias and Lillehaug, Franken Attorneys, say another week of witnesses and evidence, perhaps one and a half weeks.  Then they will close.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There will probably be motions from both sides as to which ballots to propose for counting of those presented in the contest — and at some juncture the three judge panel will have to rule which, and commission the Secretary of State to arrange for the counting and report to the court.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Once the judges have completed this, they can rule who got the most votes, and that is, with all this, their only power at the conclusion of the contest.  Who has the most votes?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I expect Franken to have the most votes — I think he could gain as many as 200-250 from this process — and those would be added to the 225 margin he already holds.  The ECC decision could be the basis for a certificate of election to issue — or Coleman could appeal to the MN Supreme Court, on matters of law and proceedure in the contest process.  Once the appeal to the MN Supremes is done, then the court can order the election certificate to be issued, and the certificate, plus all records of the recount and contest, go to the US Senate along with Franken.  Then it will be up to Reid to engineer giving Al his proper seat.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Should Coleman wish to raise a Federal Issue — that will not effect the constitutionally correct process by which a state issues an election certificate, and the Senate is the judge of member’s credentials and elections or appointments.  It should all be over, at the latest, late April — after the Senate comes back from Passover/Easter recess.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Am I right in thinking that this case is not yet before the Minnesota Supreme Court? So we will have to wait for the disposition of a probably Coleman appeal to them before the certificate is issued?”</p>
<p>Correct it is in the contest or trial phase, Coleman’s side has presented its case in chief, Franken is one week into his.  Elias and Lillehaug, Franken Attorneys, say another week of witnesses and evidence, perhaps one and a half weeks.  Then they will close.  </p>
<p>There will probably be motions from both sides as to which ballots to propose for counting of those presented in the contest — and at some juncture the three judge panel will have to rule which, and commission the Secretary of State to arrange for the counting and report to the court.  </p>
<p>Once the judges have completed this, they can rule who got the most votes, and that is, with all this, their only power at the conclusion of the contest.  Who has the most votes?</p>
<p>I expect Franken to have the most votes — I think he could gain as many as 200-250 from this process — and those would be added to the 225 margin he already holds.  The ECC decision could be the basis for a certificate of election to issue — or Coleman could appeal to the MN Supreme Court, on matters of law and proceedure in the contest process.  Once the appeal to the MN Supremes is done, then the court can order the election certificate to be issued, and the certificate, plus all records of the recount and contest, go to the US Senate along with Franken.  Then it will be up to Reid to engineer giving Al his proper seat.  </p>
<p>Should Coleman wish to raise a Federal Issue — that will not effect the constitutionally correct process by which a state issues an election certificate, and the Senate is the judge of member’s credentials and elections or appointments.  It should all be over, at the latest, late April — after the Senate comes back from Passover/Easter recess.</p>
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		<title>By: BargainCountertenor</title>
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		<dc:creator>BargainCountertenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks so very much, Molly.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so very much, Molly.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 00:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Even recovering from a stroke, Tim Johnson has more brain power and analytical skills than the entire GOP side of the Senate, and that includes Magic Bullet Specter and Big Love Orrin Hatch.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even recovering from a stroke, Tim Johnson has more brain power and analytical skills than the entire GOP side of the Senate, and that includes Magic Bullet Specter and Big Love Orrin Hatch.</p>
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		<title>By: rwcole</title>
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		<dc:creator>rwcole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Am I right in thinking that this case is not yet before the Minnesota Supreme Court? So we will have to wait for the disposition of a probably Coleman appeal to them before the certificate is issued?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I right in thinking that this case is not yet before the Minnesota Supreme Court? So we will have to wait for the disposition of a probably Coleman appeal to them before the certificate is issued?</p>
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		<title>By: RonzoniRigatoniJr</title>
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		<dc:creator>RonzoniRigatoniJr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My goodness, I am running 3 different browsers (IE, Opera &amp; Firefox) with 3 different home pages and other purposes.  I never knew this could be a problem LOL.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My goodness, I am running 3 different browsers (IE, Opera &amp; Firefox) with 3 different home pages and other purposes.  I never knew this could be a problem LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Palli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tim Johnson had a stroke more than a year ago… relax and work harder to listen&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim Johnson had a stroke more than a year ago… relax and work harder to listen</p>
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		<title>By: VictorLaszlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>VictorLaszlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 22:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yep. They’re just two different programs that do the same thing, but have minor differences.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just like my car analogy above - both have four tires, steering wheels, heaters, radios… but everything is laid out slightly differently, and each has its pros and cons.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You can have both Firefox and IE installed on your system at the same time, and use whichever you choose at any time.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. They’re just two different programs that do the same thing, but have minor differences.</p>
<p>Just like my car analogy above &#8211; both have four tires, steering wheels, heaters, radios… but everything is laid out slightly differently, and each has its pros and cons.</p>
<p>You can have both Firefox and IE installed on your system at the same time, and use whichever you choose at any time.</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
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		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 22:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, residual effects of a brain aneurysm may come in to play there.  If you remember, he was out of the Senate for a large part of the last Congress due to treatment and rehab.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, residual effects of a brain aneurysm may come in to play there.  If you remember, he was out of the Senate for a large part of the last Congress due to treatment and rehab.</p>
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		<title>By: VictorLaszlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>VictorLaszlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 22:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Firefox is almost exactly like IE in function. It’s something you use instead, like driving a Camry instead of an Accord.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firefox is almost exactly like IE in function. It’s something you use instead, like driving a Camry instead of an Accord.</p>
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