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	<title>Comments on: Franken-Coleman Update, 02/26/09 (PM Edition): Pro Hac Vice to Pro Hack</title>
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		<title>By: BargainCountertenor</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/02/26/franken-coleman-update-022609-pm-edition-pro-hac-vice-to-pro-hack/#comment-24662</link>
		<dc:creator>BargainCountertenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Republics &lt;em&gt;always&lt;/em&gt; want to play Calvinball.  There is nothing new about that at all.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republics <em>always</em> want to play Calvinball.  There is nothing new about that at all.</p>
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		<title>By: BargainCountertenor</title>
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		<dc:creator>BargainCountertenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;IANAL, PW.  I’m a statistician who has played with lawyers.  Mrs. BC is a former paralegal and now a scholar of legal rhetoric (in the traditional Aristotelian sense of that abused word.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If Ginsberg really thought he could pull that crap in a place like Minnesota, he’s a bigger idiot than I thought he was.  I didn’t think that was possible, but apparently it is.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IANAL, PW.  I’m a statistician who has played with lawyers.  Mrs. BC is a former paralegal and now a scholar of legal rhetoric (in the traditional Aristotelian sense of that abused word.)</p>
<p>If Ginsberg really thought he could pull that crap in a place like Minnesota, he’s a bigger idiot than I thought he was.  I didn’t think that was possible, but apparently it is.</p>
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		<title>By: puppethead</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/02/26/franken-coleman-update-022609-pm-edition-pro-hac-vice-to-pro-hack/#comment-24660</link>
		<dc:creator>puppethead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Perhaps Coleman hanging out with the GOP Senate caucus the other day in DC was really a break-up lunch: “We can’t go on like this. It’s not us, it’s you.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Coleman hanging out with the GOP Senate caucus the other day in DC was really a break-up lunch: “We can’t go on like this. It’s not us, it’s you.”</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/02/26/franken-coleman-update-022609-pm-edition-pro-hac-vice-to-pro-hack/#comment-24659</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thing is, I’m guessing that Ginsberg, who saw attorneys on his side get away with shutting down a Florida courtroom in the 2000 “Brooks Brothers Riot”, seriously thought he could pull similar crap in Minnesota and keep his &lt;em&gt;pro hac vice&lt;/em&gt; status.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thing is, I’m guessing that Ginsberg, who saw attorneys on his side get away with shutting down a Florida courtroom in the 2000 “Brooks Brothers Riot”, seriously thought he could pull similar crap in Minnesota and keep his <em>pro hac vice</em> status.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, Counsellor!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Counsellor!</p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;normie and his high falutin lawyers seem to asnt to play calvinball here&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and this is the party that complains about judicial activism and nonexistent voter fraud&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;save those youtubes, folks&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;we’re gonna have a lot of chances to demonstrat repuglitard hypocrisy in the near future&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;who has done more to advance the cause of fradulent voting, ACORN, or norm coleman&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;while the repuglitards can’t produce a single illegal vote cast by any ACORN related voter, we got norm coleman advocating for HOW MANY ILLEGAL VOTERS ???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;when we have a dispute about which party supports voter fraud, WE CAN GO TO THE VIDEO, FOLKS&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope the repuglitards understand that their actions are going to hang around conservatives’ necks for THREE OR FOUR GENERATIONS&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>normie and his high falutin lawyers seem to asnt to play calvinball here</p>
<p>and this is the party that complains about judicial activism and nonexistent voter fraud</p>
<p>save those youtubes, folks</p>
<p>we’re gonna have a lot of chances to demonstrat repuglitard hypocrisy in the near future</p>
<p>who has done more to advance the cause of fradulent voting, ACORN, or norm coleman</p>
<p>while the repuglitards can’t produce a single illegal vote cast by any ACORN related voter, we got norm coleman advocating for HOW MANY ILLEGAL VOTERS ???</p>
<p>when we have a dispute about which party supports voter fraud, WE CAN GO TO THE VIDEO, FOLKS</p>
<p>I hope the repuglitards understand that their actions are going to hang around conservatives’ necks for THREE OR FOUR GENERATIONS</p>
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		<title>By: BargainCountertenor</title>
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		<dc:creator>BargainCountertenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 06:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For the nonlawyers among us.  A motion &lt;em&gt;pro hac vice&lt;/em&gt; is a request to the court to admit an attorney who does not belong to the bar in the court’s jurisdiction to practice (often as the attorney of record) in the case in question.  Ginsberg isn’t a member of the Minnesota bar, so Normie’s lawyers filed a motion on his behalf asking that he be allowed to serve as (one of) Normie’s attorneys in this trial.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These things happen all the time in interstate divorce/custody cases.  But Ginsberg ought to be conducting himself as an attorney rather than as a PR flack.  Hence, rather than face court sanctions for having proven himself to be a jerk, they are withdrawing the motion.  Since he’s &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; an attorney in the case now, he’s free to be as big a horse’s ass as he wants to be.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the nonlawyers among us.  A motion <em>pro hac vice</em> is a request to the court to admit an attorney who does not belong to the bar in the court’s jurisdiction to practice (often as the attorney of record) in the case in question.  Ginsberg isn’t a member of the Minnesota bar, so Normie’s lawyers filed a motion on his behalf asking that he be allowed to serve as (one of) Normie’s attorneys in this trial.</p>
<p>These things happen all the time in interstate divorce/custody cases.  But Ginsberg ought to be conducting himself as an attorney rather than as a PR flack.  Hence, rather than face court sanctions for having proven himself to be a jerk, they are withdrawing the motion.  Since he’s <em>not</em> an attorney in the case now, he’s free to be as big a horse’s ass as he wants to be.</p>
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		<title>By: yellowdog jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>yellowdog jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 03:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thank you, pw&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you, pw</p>
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