Thanks PW.

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how is he paying for all of these guys? They can’t all be doing it pro bono.

If they were doing it pro bono wouldn’t this have to show up as a campaign contribution?
22 hrs & 57 min

Off topic:

KO just reported that Dick Cheney has injured his back MOVING BOXES and will be attending Barack’s Inauguration in a wheel chair!

Hysterical.

OK..who COULD be paying for this? RNC? MN Republican Committee? Does it have to be his private money?

If they were doing it pro bono wouldn’t this have to show up as a campaign contribution?

Either that or as imputed personal income, I would think.

OK, folks, please. On this thread TC troll gets no attention. Please.

I love how Norm Coleman is refinancing his house to stay afloat just like a lot of other Americans have done over the past few years and they got themselves in financial trouble as a result too.

Kay, given Der Cheney’s cardiac situation, it would not surprise me in the least if the injury was not to his back, but to something else. This is, after all, a guy who is being kept alive by a combination of sheer nastiness and a pacemaker/defibrillator installed in his chest. If he strained something and disengaged one of the electronic leads, that would be ‘deep s**t’ for sure.

Didn’t anyone ever teach him how to lift boxes correctly? Or are they making him do his own dirty work now?

we got a new one?

haven’t been around much lately….

Didn’t anyone ever teach him how to lift boxes correctly?

Maybe he hurt it while trying to beat the hired help?

Okay….(shuffling feet)…but, but…it was so much fun…trying to pass the time ’til tomorrow…shucks.

He must have insisted on moving the “boxes” himself….what was in those boxes???? How could anyone allow a heart patient to do that labor…besides he’s rich. Hmmm…maybe he was invested with Madoff! Heh.

You know, this is just crazy. If I were Norm Coleman, I would require some pretty serious assurances (like, in writing) from someone that if I hung my butt out over the edge of a chasm to finance all this legal stuff that no matter what happened at the after end, I’d get the bank paid off so that I would at least have a house, even if I lost and did not have the senate seat.

Huh. I thought all this time he was being kept alive with engine oil. LOL Thanks for the update Toby! I had no idea!

A hundred lawyers!? Why in the world would anybody need a hundred lawyers for something like this? Do Rethug lawyers work for Rethugs pro bono? Interesting conflict of ideals.

Yeah, I’ve been getting that Coleman’s fight to the death is all about saving his salary…he’s obviously…cough…”overextended”…

I’m going to bet a nickel that a) if there are boxes, he didn’t lift any and b) something else has happened. I’ve been looking at him in these latest interviews and he is NOT a well person. He’s been looking pretty frail for several months.

Must be some extra-super-secret Flash-drives or documents from the Man-Sized Safe.
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I don’t talk to traditional conservatives, because…well…how should I put this?….*whistling & twirling finger around my ear*….they’re kind of crazy, because they bang rocks together and scream at trees in the park.

Trashed or in the process of trashing 3, count ‘em, 3 threads today.

707!

ooo, that’s IT, Kay – they didn’t do the changeover from 10W40 to 10W30 – THAT’s the problem right there. :)

what WHO was in those boxes????

???

And clouds…they shout at clouds!
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Nice to know we have someone here who can multitask. /s

Only three? Felt like more…
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LMAO

I bet Norm Coleman is wishing he was in a wheelchair right now just for the sympathy factor.

Exactly! Those TCs are nuts I tell ya….nuts!

Nah, it was the undies he’s been swiping from laundromats.

I’ve been looking at him in these latest interviews and he is NOT a well person. He’s been looking pretty frail for several months.

hey, knock it off. I’m gettin’ all teary-eyed here….

Here are all the refinancings for the Colemans..check it out. The first one is the regular garden variety ‘we just bought the house’ mortgage…
Nov. 1994: took out 30-year $172,900 mortgage.
Dec. 1994: took out 10-year $26,700 second mortgage
March 1996: took out new 30-year mortgage for $174,000.
Nov. 1997: took out new 30-year mortgage for $199,250.
Feb. 1999: took out 30-year mortgage for $203,600. [Coleman Mortgage, 2/1/99]
Jan. 2000: took out a 5-year $50,000 revolving credit line.
Oct. 2001: took out 30-year mortgage for $292,000. [Coleman Mortgage, 10/29/01]
Oct. 2002: took out 5-year $25,000 revolving credit line.
Aug. 2003: took out 30-year mortgage for $320,000.
Jan. 2004: revised revolving credit line from $25,000 to $125,000 and extended the maturity date from Oct. 2007 to October 10, 2008.
Dec. 2006: took out new 30-year mortgage for $423,000.
March 2007: took out new 30-year mortgage for $775,000.

OT Darth is in a wheelchair KO said I missed why anyone here know?

Doin’ what we should never do, repeating what I was told without verifying. Trusted source, though.

Here (handing over a clean dry electronic hanky) — he’s still an old, nasty hateful man. All you get is one tear.

Thanks I guess he is shredding his own papers and doesn’t trust anyone else to do it:)
After all what VP lifts boxes?

My Q is what motivates Coleman? Does he really think he can win?

I will not do the math. I will not do the math. I will not do the math. I will not…

OT Darth is in a wheelchair KO said I missed why anyone here know?

Can you imagine lugging an ego that huge around for all these years?

He sounds completely financially desperate and has crony friends that want to help him.

Looks to me as if, as real estate prices in their area rose, the Colemans just kept adding to their debt load. That latest one, for $775,000 is a killer.

That’s a lot of money. To me, anyway. Damn, gonna hafta do the math just to get a general idea of what he’s burnt through.

That’s pretty amazing. $173,000 to $775,000 in 13 years. Did MN house prices rise 4-1/2 times over that period, or might there be a little favoritism going on?

That could have been the cause of his back giving out! He was throwing all the full paper shredders out the window into the rented trash bin. I bet those things are heavy. ;-)

yeah, but the black hole where his (emotional) heart should be must have sucked in at least some of the excess ego-matter…

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someone was dirtying up the lake ALL day…… katymine was nearly pushed over the edge…….

Poor Norm. Just when he thought he was going to have the ‘Miracle on the Minnesota’, he instead is going to get the ‘Your Case Is Dismissed. Thanks for Playing!”.

Seems like there’s probably favoritism or favors involved in _at least_ waiving or mitigating closing costs, points and fees on all those re-fi’s. I don’t think any of the average folks I know who have re-fi’d once or twice could actually afford to do it every 12-18 months!

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It was more.

Who wants to bet Norm has been pestering Sarah Palin for RNC money?

I get about $453K he’s gotten out of all these transactions.

Old Normie is probably using the traditional Republican Welfare…. some illegal PAC chuck full of corporate funds who will own him lock stock and barrel…..

That last one is one hell of a big mortgage. Especially for someone who appears to have lost his job.

Exactly Katy! Good call.

That’s my question also – if it were California, I’d find it more credible. But here’s what I’m seeing – I’m no expert; I’m just separating out the first mortgages from the other stuff:
He’s sitting there with basically a brand new first mortgage of $775,000 on the house.

He’s got a second mortgage of $26,500 that he and his wife took out 1 month after they bought the place. What bank on this earth gives someone with a brand new mortgage a second mortgage?

He paid off a 5-year LOC in 2005 for $50K and took out one for $25K which was supposed to be paid off in 10/07 but which has now been renegotiated up to $125,000 and was due 10/08 – and we don’t know if he paid that off…or HOW.

And if I’ve understood PW’s posts correctly, if he loses all these elections challenges, he’s also on the hook for ALL the court costs (as well as for all his attorneys.

not to worry about Normie. I figure that after about 113 years of flipping burgers 24/7/365, he might reach the point where he’s finally paying toward the principal…..

What bank and how much TARP funds did they get?

PW can answer this best, but I seem to recall that Normie’s with John McSame on the SugarTit Express. I think his wife (or, more likely her trust fund) owns a significant chunk of Nordstrom’s.

KO’s gonna have a Special Comment tonight…..

Wow…that property sure increased in…cough…value at one helluva rate…Maybe he has some bad spending “habits”…

How can a property go from $206,300 in 1999 to $775,000 in 2007…..8 years…what a deal…He must be a real estate genius.

Did he build a mansion???

Probably not worth much now….the dude’s in trouble!!!

NAR data for history seems available only since 2005, but that indicates that Minneapolis median home prices fell 4% between 05 and 07, but Coleman was able to almost double his mortgage in 07. Something really rotten there.

Just so we are ALL on the same page…….. the troll HAS been fed…. the food bowl is empty and so is the feed bag….. I threw it out during the last thread…… TC has been fling mud in the threads ALL day…… do it for me to save my sanity……

Here’s a quick and dirty:
Monthly payment: 30 Years
Interest rate: 8.000%
Loan amount: $ 775,000.00
$ 5,686.68 a month

And we haven’t even talked about the payments on the $26,500 or this $125,000 LOC that supposedly was paid back in October.
$68,000+ a year just for the house payment — and he’s got to have housing costs in DC – unless he’s sleeping under the desk (and he’s not there any more, right – he’s out of the office).

That’s my understanding of Minnesota election law. The recount was a freebie, because the election was so close.

But if he doesn’t prevail in the court challenge, he’s on the hook for his lawyers, Franken’s lawyers and court costs. I’m not sure if he gets a bill for the Minnesota Attorney General’s time too. I sure hope he does.

It’s enough to make me wonder when his wife is going to erase the mag stripe on his ATM card…

I wonder if it’s as ‘rotten’ as Dodd getting a good mortgage rate because he’s a Senator, and you know, this was an issue the right wingers spewed for awhile during the election. I’m sure it’s okay if Norm is getting good rates, free money with future favors, and getting illegal money too. *rolling eyes*

Coleman should never be elected to anything ever again cause he can’t manage his money.

If he comes back, I have my Captain Caveman club in my back pocket to give him a workout with. Okay? LOL

I think his wife (or, more likely her trust fund) owns a significant chunk of Nordstrom’s.

Might be worth it to her just for the possibility of having Normie safely away and living in D.C.

Is IT in it’s Crate for the night? Oh maybe he is not Crate trained.. that’s why there was doo doo all the last thread.

Keith Olbermann discussing the insight of Oh-Dana Perino as “blissful lack of self awareness”.

Do those “Future Favors” require the use of a condom? /s

Poor Normie. As of right now, he thinks he’s the winner of the November 4th election. Bah hahahahahaha! It’s just too much. *shaking head*

Don’t know Dodds’ numbers, but near doubling a mortgage in a falling home price market (Minneapolis home prices started dropping in 2006) is really egregious. Any bank that does that is asking for trouble, especially if the favored person loses an election. Wonder why they would take such a risk. (Dodd, whatever his numbers, at least will have his senate seat as long as he wants it.)

No…it said that it went to watch O’Lielly or Hannity or something of that nature. This troll is just having fun running off all of the typical “talking” points to get everybody in a tizzy. Funny actually.

http://www.nationaljournal.com…..8_2254.php

“Most curiously, Larson provides Coleman with a place to live in Washington. In July 2007, Coleman began paying Larson $600 a month in rent for a portion of a one-bedroom basement apartment in a Capitol Hill town house that Larson owns. The way Coleman explained the arrangement, the apartment serves as a crash pad. The 58-year-old senator sleeps in a bed shoehorned into a 10-by-10 bedroom, and he said he spends perhaps only “three waking hours a night” in the place.

Earlier this month, after National Journal questioned Coleman and Larson about the living arrangement, the senator said he discovered that his rent for last November and January had not been paid. In mid-June, Coleman covered the back rent with a personal check for $1,200 made out to Larson and signed by the senator’s wife. Last year, Coleman sold furniture to Larson to cover one month’s rent, according to Larson. And Larson held on to yet another month’s rent check for three months, cashing it a few days after NJ’s inquiries.

Larson’s St. Paul-based company, FLS Connect, is a critical component of Coleman’s political operation. The firm, which has raised money and hustled up voters for Coleman, has been paid about $1.6 million since mid-2001 by Coleman’s Northstar Leadership political action committee and two Senate campaigns, according to reports filed with the Federal Election Commission. Larson serves as the PAC’s treasurer and provides it with office space in St. Paul; Coleman’s Senate campaign stopped renting space from Larson last year….Later, in a prepared statement, Coleman said he moved into Larson’s town house in a belt-tightening move to cut his living expenses; his previous apartment in Washington cost him $1,780 a month. Coleman’s Senate salary is $169,300….Connections, it has. Larson and his longtime partner, Tony Feather, are close to the Bush White House. Republican operatives said that Feather is especially close to Karl Rove, the former senior White House adviser who masterminded both of George W. Bush’s presidential campaigns. In the 2003-04 presidential election cycle, the Bush-Cheney campaign paid FLS Connect, then known by other names, nearly $7.6 million, FEC records show.

But that’s virtually chump change compared with what the Republican National Committee has doled out to FLS Connect since 2003–some $29.5 million, according to an analysis of federal campaign reports by the Center for Responsive Politics. And those numbers don’t include money funneled to FLS Connect by at least 20 state GOP parties and House and Senate candidates…”

And let’s not forget Larsen’s role in the Palin Wardrobe-gate.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..36957.html

TC
TA

Hmmm…snow.

Ya know it was fun to rant at IT. We had an audience who had the balls to comment with us…
Oh and IT said it was going to watch the Fear Factor on Faux NEWS.

Larson and his longtime partner, Tony Feather, are close to the Bush White House

Hey – wait a minute. Normie hangs out with evil unmarried gay people?

And still has the nerve to call himself a republican?

That is rather peculiar.

Could be.

Oh, where are my smelling salts? Another Rethug gay scandal. Associating with a known evil unmarried gay couple. It’s just too much to bear. Ohhhhhh….

They should, because gawd knows we don’t want any little Normies running around in the future.

Franken and ACRON are stealing the election.

Isn’t it? The guy’s on the hook for close to $70K a year in mortgage payments (yes, I know his wife works), he rents a room from this guy (and ‘forgets’ to pay two months rent, writes the guy a check which is signed by his WIFE), and oh, yeah by the way, this guy’s company is just huge in terms of robocalling etc. etc. for the RNC and when the Palinator needs a spiffy new wardrobe, who gets the call to play Tim Gunn? Mr. “I’ve got my hands in all the RNC wallets” Larsen. We don’t even have to play “Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon’ with this one.

Maybe it is an evil unmarried gay threesome.

Please, do not feed the troll.

Are you a stand up comedian?

Ohhhhhhh, the fainting couch.

Sorry SD. Won’t happen again.

Don’t feed him, mary. He’s trashed 3 threads already.

Ah am havin’ the vapors.

Sorry for the double up.

Maybe it’s Al F. Heh, heh. It is too precisely knee-jerk conservative with all of the pet peeve talkers lined up to be a real conservative…It’s a joke.

KO special Comment is plain ass right! Thank you Keith!

But I haven’t gotten a shot yet (sulking)…..

*sniff sniff sniff* Is there a Bush-supporting-neocon on here?

Eli’s upstairs.

Damn, I’ll have to wait until the morning to see the clip unless it gets put up muy pronto.

Yeah, and will do just as much good under Obama as all KO’s special comments did under W.

I envision IT taking copious notes for ITS next visit…

Nah, just a smelly ol’ troll pretender.

AAAhaaa! TA is actually Al F in drag!!!!

WTF’s an “ACRON”?

Keep posting new threads. IT will get confused and wander off into the ether.

New synthetic material for trolls to use as ski masks.

Glad you could make the party, SD. Figured your influence and Norske’s would be appreciated.

;~D

Even is it can’t spell acorn?

Not really fair though, it’s like a litter of kittens with a lizard they’ve surrounded. Poor thing doesn’t stand a chance.

PW You are great but I have to differ with you. The 08 election is over this is another episode of comedy central.
14 hrs & 48 min

I know, that why its best to reason with the kittens, and you do have a way with ‘em, SD, fer shore.

;~)

*wacking troll with Captain Caveman club*

Oops. False alarm. It was a slug. Sorry! Go back to what you were doing.

Bush and Cheney will never be prosecuted for anything, libs! :-)

ROFLMAO

LOL Sometimes I just write this stuff to make myself laugh. Glad you’re laughing too SD! Makes it all the more worthwhile. ;-)