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	<title>Comments on: WaPo&#8217;s Capehart: Caroline&#8217;s Prospects Weakening</title>
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		<title>By: Teddy Partridge</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/12/27/wapos-capehart-carolines-prospects-weakening/#comment-22618</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My point was perhaps unclear.  You referred to “statements” &lt;strong&gt;plural&lt;/strong&gt;; Conason’s article mentions one speech.  Were there others?  I don’t recall Caroline’s anti-impeachment crusade in 1998.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point was perhaps unclear.  You referred to “statements” <strong>plural</strong>; Conason’s article mentions one speech.  Were there others?  I don’t recall Caroline’s anti-impeachment crusade in 1998.</p>
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		<title>By: Mainer</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/12/27/wapos-capehart-carolines-prospects-weakening/#comment-22617</link>
		<dc:creator>Mainer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nadler? He has shown no indication that he’d appeal to upstate and rarely even draws a general election opponent.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nadler? He has shown no indication that he’d appeal to upstate and rarely even draws a general election opponent.</p>
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		<title>By: brodie</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/12/27/wapos-capehart-carolines-prospects-weakening/#comment-22616</link>
		<dc:creator>brodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, Teddy, what I wrote — “public statement against” the impeachment — is entirely consistent with Conason’s description.  He merely noted her words and her delivery were not memorable, a way to note that CK is not and never has been a great speechmaker, but otoh she showed up, stood up, and energized (Conason even says “electrified”) the gathering.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That should count for something among reasonable people on either side of the CK for Senate issue.  But for some dyed-in-the-wool CK detractors, nothing she does is apparently quite good enough.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Teddy, what I wrote — “public statement against” the impeachment — is entirely consistent with Conason’s description.  He merely noted her words and her delivery were not memorable, a way to note that CK is not and never has been a great speechmaker, but otoh she showed up, stood up, and energized (Conason even says “electrified”) the gathering.  </p>
<p>That should count for something among reasonable people on either side of the CK for Senate issue.  But for some dyed-in-the-wool CK detractors, nothing she does is apparently quite good enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Partridge</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/12/27/wapos-capehart-carolines-prospects-weakening/#comment-22614</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 07:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What you wrote:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I also don’t think many of the skeptics give her credit for her 1998 public statements against the Repub Impeachment Insanity. And she stepped up and spoke out at a time when some lefties didn’t feel it necessary to stand against the attempted Rethug Coup — perhaps they were just carried away with their CDS.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What you linked:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Caroline Kennedy made her political debut in Manhattan almost exactly 10 years ago, when she showed up as the surprise speaker at a “teach-in” against the impeachment of Bill Clinton at New York University Law School. Her speech on that occasion was not memorable, nor did she display great passion as she read it, but none of that mattered. Her presence electrified what would otherwise have been a mundane gathering of liberal intellectuals, professors and politicians.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A dispassionate, unmemorable, read speech?  That’s the “public statements against” the Clinton impeachment?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I also don’t think many of the skeptics give her credit for her 1998 public statements against the Repub Impeachment Insanity. And she stepped up and spoke out at a time when some lefties didn’t feel it necessary to stand against the attempted Rethug Coup — perhaps they were just carried away with their CDS.</p>
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<p>What you linked:</p>
<blockquote><p>Caroline Kennedy made her political debut in Manhattan almost exactly 10 years ago, when she showed up as the surprise speaker at a “teach-in” against the impeachment of Bill Clinton at New York University Law School. Her speech on that occasion was not memorable, nor did she display great passion as she read it, but none of that mattered. Her presence electrified what would otherwise have been a mundane gathering of liberal intellectuals, professors and politicians.</p>
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<p>A dispassionate, unmemorable, read speech?  That’s the “public statements against” the Clinton impeachment?</p>
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		<title>By: brodie</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/12/27/wapos-capehart-carolines-prospects-weakening/#comment-22613</link>
		<dc:creator>brodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 02:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.observer.com/2008/politics/matter-caroline-s-qualifications&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.observer.com/2008/p.....ifications&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.observer.com/2008/politics/matter-caroline-s-qualifications" rel="nofollow">http://www.observer.com/2008/p&#8230;..ifications</a></p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Partridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teddy Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Primaries are where a lot gets decided in New York politics. Sitting them out doesn’t paint a picture of political engagement.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I would appreciate — really — a link or two about Caroline’s 1998 courage against the impeachment.  I don’t recall her activism on that front, and would like to know more about it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Primaries are where a lot gets decided in New York politics. Sitting them out doesn’t paint a picture of political engagement.</p>
<p>And I would appreciate — really — a link or two about Caroline’s 1998 courage against the impeachment.  I don’t recall her activism on that front, and would like to know more about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/12/27/wapos-capehart-carolines-prospects-weakening/#comment-22610</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 23:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You know, I’m really not trying to score points on you. I understand what you’re saying, and I understand that you’re sincere about it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just want to make the case that there are people who are equally as sincere who have genuinely compelling reasons to take the other side. It’s not personal, except insofar as I take who represents me politically personally.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and, WADR, my thirteen year old child has been in the voting booth more often than Ms. Kennedy has these past years. That’s not good.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I’m really not trying to score points on you. I understand what you’re saying, and I understand that you’re sincere about it. </p>
<p>I just want to make the case that there are people who are equally as sincere who have genuinely compelling reasons to take the other side. It’s not personal, except insofar as I take who represents me politically personally.</p>
<p>and, WADR, my thirteen year old child has been in the voting booth more often than Ms. Kennedy has these past years. That’s not good.</p>
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		<title>By: DWBartoo</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/12/27/wapos-capehart-carolines-prospects-weakening/#comment-22609</link>
		<dc:creator>DWBartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 23:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hmm …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kucinich is too short …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nadler is too fat …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The ‘more and better’ democrats sought be so many, MUST, obviously, then be recruited from amongst the ranks of the beautiful people … all other considerations, such as courage, capacity or intelligence must be kept in their rightful place, which is to say rather far down the ‘list’ … after pulchritude, ‘heritage’, ‘connection’ and ‘charisma’.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is merest coincidence that the well-endowed, monetarily, comprise the largest contingent of the ‘beautiful’, owing it might be postualted to the self-evident fact of the far more pleasant lives available to those who are above such mundane concerns as money.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Therefore it is the sacred duty of the most-wealthy to put themselves forward as the undisputed best amongst us, a democratic form of nobless oblige, if you will.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Such ‘legacy’ candidates must never be subjected to undue scrutiny as it definitely makes the rest of us look mean and suspicious.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After a time we will have a stable of such heirloom candidates and their offspring.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What a wonderful idea.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wonder why no one has thought of it before?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(The preceding snark was for entertainment porpoises only)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm …</p>
<p>Kucinich is too short …</p>
<p>Nadler is too fat …</p>
<p>So?</p>
<p>The ‘more and better’ democrats sought be so many, MUST, obviously, then be recruited from amongst the ranks of the beautiful people … all other considerations, such as courage, capacity or intelligence must be kept in their rightful place, which is to say rather far down the ‘list’ … after pulchritude, ‘heritage’, ‘connection’ and ‘charisma’.</p>
<p>It is merest coincidence that the well-endowed, monetarily, comprise the largest contingent of the ‘beautiful’, owing it might be postualted to the self-evident fact of the far more pleasant lives available to those who are above such mundane concerns as money.</p>
<p>Therefore it is the sacred duty of the most-wealthy to put themselves forward as the undisputed best amongst us, a democratic form of nobless oblige, if you will.</p>
<p>Such ‘legacy’ candidates must never be subjected to undue scrutiny as it definitely makes the rest of us look mean and suspicious.</p>
<p>After a time we will have a stable of such heirloom candidates and their offspring.</p>
<p>What a wonderful idea.</p>
<p>Wonder why no one has thought of it before?</p>
<p>(The preceding snark was for entertainment porpoises only)</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/12/27/wapos-capehart-carolines-prospects-weakening/#comment-22608</link>
		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 23:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Punch is the father.  Pinch is the son who currently runs things at the NY Times and who is rumored to have had an affair with Caroline Kennedy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Punch is the father.  Pinch is the son who currently runs things at the NY Times and who is rumored to have had an affair with Caroline Kennedy.</p>
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		<title>By: tenzen</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/12/27/wapos-capehart-carolines-prospects-weakening/#comment-22607</link>
		<dc:creator>tenzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 23:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;PUNCH Sulzberger&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PUNCH Sulzberger</p>
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