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Ah, the “Squeeze Rick Warren” play.
This is a good thing!
Dugg.

This actually plays into Warren’s hands. He’s trying to depict himself as The Sane Evangelical, and Wiley’s attacks, while they play well with the hardcore base, will be seen as yet more proof that Warren — who has already ticked off the hardcores with his progressive-by-comparison stances on the environment, AIDS, and Islam (he met Melissa Etheridge at an event put on by an LA Muslim group) — is what he touts himself as being.

Or it’s just a market-share battle, since Pastor Wiley™ is also in the OC.

In my weak moments I wish there were a god for fucks like these.

Or it might just prove that Pastor Rick™ is a divisive figure, as many have been saying since Obama made the choice.

Many in the evangelical community find Pastor Rick™ to be a poor theologian when it comes ot their brand of Christianity–to namby pamby and not ture enough to the gopel–even with the dinosaurs.

Unfortunately, Phoenix Woman has it exactly right. Warren could not have gained a bigger PR windfall if he’d paid for it. (Unless, of course, he did.)

The objective facts — that Drake is a lunatic while critics of Warren’s own intolerance are right on the merits — mean nothing in our media environment. Warren will exploit a narrative of false equivalence between “intemperate” remarks from the right and “Christophobic” attacks from the left as “proof” that he is a moderate beacon of tolerance.

You raise a good point about the payment, since it took a while for a local Southern Baptist to denounce Pastor Rick™.

If you claim to speech in God’s name you better be able to light a fire.

“How much longer will it take you to make up your minds? If the LORD is God, worship him; but if Baal is God, worship him!” But the people didn’t say a word.

Then Elijah said, “I am the only prophet of the LORD still left, but there are 450 prophets of Baal. Bring two bulls; let the prophets of Baal take one, kill it, cut it in pieces, and put it on the wood–but don’t light the fire. I will do the same with the other bull. Then let the prophets of Baal pray to their god, and I will pray to the LORD, and the god who answers by sending fire–he is God.”

The people shouted their approval.

Then Elijah said to the prophets of Baal. “Since there are so many of you, you take a bull and prepare it first. Pray to your god, but don’t set fire to the wood.”

They took the bull that was brought to them, prepared it, and prayed to Baal until noon. They shouted. “Answer us. Baal!” and kept dancing around the altar they had built. But no answer came.

At noon Elijah started making fun of them; “Pray louder! Hi is a god! Maybe he is day-dreaming or relieving himself, or perhaps he’s gone off on a trip! Or maybe he’s sleeping, and you’ve got to wake him up!” So the prophets prayed louder and cut themselves with knives and daggers, according to their ritual, until blood flowed. They kept on ranting and raving until the middle of the afternoon; but no answer came, not sound was heard.

Then Elijah said to the people, “Come closer to me.” and they all gathered around him. He set about repairing the altar of the LORD which had been torn down. He took twelve stones, one for each of the twelve tribes named for the sons of Jacob, the man to whom the LORD had given the name Israel With these stones he rebuilt the altar for the worship of the LORD. He dug a trench around it, large enough to hold about four gallons of water. Then he placed the wood on the altar, cut the bull in pieces, and laid it on the wood. He said, “Fill four jars with water and pour it on the offering and the wood.” They did so, and the said, “Do it again”–and they did. “Do it once more,” he said–and they did. The water ran down around the altar and filled the trench.

At the hour of the afternoon sacrifice the prophet Elijah approached the altar and prayed, “O LORD, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, prove now that you are the God of Israel. and that I am your servant and have done all this at your command. Answer me, LORD, answer me, so that this people will know that you, the LORD, are God and that you are bringing them back to yourself.”

The LORD sent fire down, and it burned up the sacrifice, the wood, and the stones, scorched the earth and dried up the water in the trench.

When the people saw this, they threw themselves on the ground and exclaimed. “The LORD is God; the LORD alone is God!”

Elijah ordered, “Seize the prophets of Baal; don’t let any of them get away!” The people seized them all, and Elijah led them down to Kishon Brook and killed them.

http://www.amazingchange.org/s….._profb.htm

My Bold
How much longer before America makes up their mind? 8 years we have suffered as a born again leader turned out to be false, we have faced disasters in war, we are impoverished and divided.
By their fruits you shall know them and their fruit is rotten.
Like bully’s everywhere Rick and Bush scream about how mean we are because we defend ourselves.

My bold didn’t work?

Warren’s books have come under criticism from some conservative evangelical Christians who question the practices promoted in these books, claiming that they distort the Gospel and employ questionable tactics.[16] Others express concern over what is described as the divisive nature of Warren’s techniques. Wall Street Journal writer Suzanne Sataline cites examples of congregations who have split over Purpose Driven growth strategies and congregations who have expelled members who fought Purpose Driven changes.[16] In an effort to defend Warren, Richard Abanes, a Christian author, journalist, and apologist, has written a book and extensive articles researching many of these criticisms.[17]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Warren

This is the guy who Obama brings from the other side to be inclusive? Whats next ask Bush for advice on the economy? Ask Rummy how to win a war?

I so do love the certainty with which the self-appointed yet humble spokesmen for God yammer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBqe5xvYnNc

- Tom

If God exists he has already punished these clowns by making them both @**holes.

Looks like Pastor Wiley would very much enjoy being the instrument of divine wrath on this one.

Huh, calling our new President an “evil illegal alien?” The “illegal” part shows that he consumes wingnut media. Ya think this dude uses his church and pulpit for political speeches much?

Perhaps the IRS should investigate.