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	<title>Comments on: Plane Crash Kills Rove IT Guy, Testified in OH Voter Fraud Case, Key in White House Email Scandal</title>
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		<title>By: MidnightWalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>MidnightWalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s the same old crap with the shills all the time, paid or not, professional or just idiots.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s the same old crap with the shills all the time, paid or not, professional or just idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: MidnightWalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>MidnightWalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Then start mentioning astronauts not landing on the moon, and lump all the really nutty theories with the legitimate ones and say “they’re all nuts” (another tactic)…did anyone mention the men landing on the moon yet? Just wonderin’…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then start mentioning astronauts not landing on the moon, and lump all the really nutty theories with the legitimate ones and say “they’re all nuts” (another tactic)…did anyone mention the men landing on the moon yet? Just wonderin’…</p>
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		<title>By: MidnightWalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>MidnightWalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;…oh, I’d like to add: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You’re a conspiracy theorist if you thought the torture was a “few bad apples”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You’re a conspiracy theorist if you think Valerie Plame wasn’t outed by the Bush administration.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You’re a conspiracy theorist if you think there’s WMD’s in Iraq.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I can go on and on and on…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The first thing to stifle something is to say “tin foil hat”. The oldest trick in the book. Each individual thing I mentioned above was “tin foil hat”…at one time…right???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then, stack together ALL of these things. It’s easy to shout “tin foil hat” for one individual thing. But the PATTERN…you have to be an IDIOT not to suspect foul play here!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;EITHER…an idiot or a shill who’s trying to throw off people on purpose. I love the way commentors you KNOW aren’t ever reading this and other sites like this, suddenly comment; first time commentor (long time reader?) and their first comments are always: “You guys are nuts!”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let me guess: you don’t read this site and you just came to say that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>…oh, I’d like to add: </p>
<p>You’re a conspiracy theorist if you thought the torture was a “few bad apples”.</p>
<p>You’re a conspiracy theorist if you think Valerie Plame wasn’t outed by the Bush administration.</p>
<p>You’re a conspiracy theorist if you think there’s WMD’s in Iraq.</p>
<p>I can go on and on and on…</p>
<p>The first thing to stifle something is to say “tin foil hat”. The oldest trick in the book. Each individual thing I mentioned above was “tin foil hat”…at one time…right???</p>
<p>Then, stack together ALL of these things. It’s easy to shout “tin foil hat” for one individual thing. But the PATTERN…you have to be an IDIOT not to suspect foul play here!</p>
<p>EITHER…an idiot or a shill who’s trying to throw off people on purpose. I love the way commentors you KNOW aren’t ever reading this and other sites like this, suddenly comment; first time commentor (long time reader?) and their first comments are always: “You guys are nuts!”</p>
<p>Let me guess: you don’t read this site and you just came to say that.</p>
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		<title>By: MidnightWalker</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/12/20/plane-crash-kills-rove-it-guy-testified-in-oh-voter-fraud-case-key-in-white-house-email-scandal/comment-page-2/#comment-22312</link>
		<dc:creator>MidnightWalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How come he’s the only one who died at that airport? Probably EVER at that airport? And he happens to be a key witness against Karl rove and GOP stolen elections and the missing White House emails.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;COME ON!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you DON’T think he was killed on purpose, you’re a “conspiracy theorist”!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come he’s the only one who died at that airport? Probably EVER at that airport? And he happens to be a key witness against Karl rove and GOP stolen elections and the missing White House emails.</p>
<p>COME ON!!!</p>
<p>If you DON’T think he was killed on purpose, you’re a “conspiracy theorist”!</p>
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		<title>By: MidnightWalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>MidnightWalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;87% of people follow the herd and are afraid to be riduculed. The #1 tactic to embarrass people not to think independently is to say “conspiracy theory”. YOU…are a SHILL!!! Everyone here who claims “tin foil hat”, “conspiracy theory”, etc…what are you even doing here? Oh, I forgot! You’re shills!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>87% of people follow the herd and are afraid to be riduculed. The #1 tactic to embarrass people not to think independently is to say “conspiracy theory”. YOU…are a SHILL!!! Everyone here who claims “tin foil hat”, “conspiracy theory”, etc…what are you even doing here? Oh, I forgot! You’re shills!</p>
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		<title>By: BigBob1</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigBob1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The airport terminal is open daily from 4:00am to 1:00am. With a control tower&lt;br /&gt;
Piper Saratoga 1997&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8113202&amp;version=1&amp;locale=EN-US&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/.....cale=EN-US&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8112697&amp;version=1&amp;locale=EN-US&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/.....cale=EN-US&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8112688&amp;version=1&amp;locale=EN-US&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/.....cale=EN-US&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
             Sunrise to twilight times&lt;br /&gt;
Dec 19, 2008 5:40 AM 6:16 PM 6:13 AM 5:43 PM 6:48 AM 5:08 PM 7:18 AM 4:38 PM&lt;br /&gt;
weather @3pm was 45F&lt;br /&gt;
Check The video’s No Snow on ground ,no rain Range Piper Saratoga (nm)800-950.&lt;br /&gt;
So After my review maps airport ,terrain .&lt;br /&gt;
I would love to hear the control tower tapes.Or Should we keep up with no fuel or iceing?&lt;br /&gt;
 I Don’t think so!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The airport terminal is open daily from 4:00am to 1:00am. With a control tower<br />
Piper Saratoga 1997<br /><a href="http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8113202&amp;version=1&amp;locale=EN-US" rel="nofollow">http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/&#8230;..cale=EN-US</a><br /><a href="http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8112697&amp;version=1&amp;locale=EN-US" rel="nofollow">http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/&#8230;..cale=EN-US</a><br /><a href="http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8112688&amp;version=1&amp;locale=EN-US" rel="nofollow">http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/&#8230;..cale=EN-US</a><br />
             Sunrise to twilight times<br />
Dec 19, 2008 5:40 AM 6:16 PM 6:13 AM 5:43 PM 6:48 AM 5:08 PM 7:18 AM 4:38 PM<br />
weather @3pm was 45F<br />
Check The video’s No Snow on ground ,no rain Range Piper Saratoga (nm)800-950.<br />
So After my review maps airport ,terrain .<br />
I would love to hear the control tower tapes.Or Should we keep up with no fuel or iceing?<br />
 I Don’t think so!</p>
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		<title>By: AngryB</title>
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		<dc:creator>AngryB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You implant tiny sprayers on the leading edge of the wing, and at the right time, trigger the sprayer to go off, causing icing.  On the scale of what is possible, this might rate an easy category.  And if you make them destructible in heat (non-detectable), which is probably not difficult with the tools available to the government, then you have created icing on the wings, from “natural causes”.  There will be no proof of  wrongdoing and hence, no one to blame, except weather conditions, if icing is the problem.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Call it tin-foil, but the more you point in that direction, the more easier it is to cover up.  Think Kenndy’s magic bullet.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You implant tiny sprayers on the leading edge of the wing, and at the right time, trigger the sprayer to go off, causing icing.  On the scale of what is possible, this might rate an easy category.  And if you make them destructible in heat (non-detectable), which is probably not difficult with the tools available to the government, then you have created icing on the wings, from “natural causes”.  There will be no proof of  wrongdoing and hence, no one to blame, except weather conditions, if icing is the problem.  </p>
<p>Call it tin-foil, but the more you point in that direction, the more easier it is to cover up.  Think Kenndy’s magic bullet.</p>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Insightful information…thanks for the comment.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insightful information…thanks for the comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Anais</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 13:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Connell, Wellstone, John Kennedy Jr., progressive Republican Sen. John Heinz: all real or perceived threats to the great right wing military-industrial monolith and all dead in plane or helicopter crashes. The NTSB will probably say pilot error.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Connell, Wellstone, John Kennedy Jr., progressive Republican Sen. John Heinz: all real or perceived threats to the great right wing military-industrial monolith and all dead in plane or helicopter crashes. The NTSB will probably say pilot error.</p>
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		<title>By: AnonSnark</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnonSnark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 06:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;they just couldnt help themselves. they have done it again and this time its going to be their undoing. watch what happens next…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they just couldnt help themselves. they have done it again and this time its going to be their undoing. watch what happens next…</p>
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