Ah Rove, fingerprints everywhere.

Poor Rover. Why do I think that Ftiz is still keeping an eye on Rove and is just going to keep moving closer and closer to him all the time?

Blago might have dirt on Rove and is now forced to consider being a fink? There might be some good to come out of this.

Thanks PW.

Thanks to Oliver Wolcott for opening the digg

Rove expected to be indicted by Christmas.
16 days and counting.
more to the point, however, WHY isn’t he in jail now? As I type????

DUGG

I do not share your faith, I believe rove has gotten off the hook for his treachery, I believe cheney has and bush has, I believe there will be no retribution, no justice

I don’t necessarily have any faith that he’ll actually go to prison. But I do think he will be sweating this stuff until all the statute of limitations run out on all the crimes he has committed. And I do believe he has committed crimes.

Rove’s never going to jail. He’ll be pardoned soon.

This won’t make too many Christian Republics happy

Asked whether the Bible was literally true, Bush replied: “Probably not. No, I’m not a literalist, but I think you can learn a lot from it.”

Of course, he was happy to let them think he was a literalist while running. What’s next, he’s going to stop pretending to be like Reagan and dump the Brush Ranch?

how many Governors have been “pressured” out of office during the W Administration ?

rowland, spitzer, seigelman, gray davis, mcgreevy, ryan,

who have i missed ?

Well for what it’s worth, Rowland and Ryan were both convicted of corruption charges and were/are Republicans.

Gray Davis wasn’t “pressured” out of office. He was recalled (using Darrell Issa’s money), although it was mainly based on how Enron and such had screwed the state

Siegelman lost election and was then indicted and convicted under hinkey circumstances.

Actually Blue Texan had the original as part of today’s Early Morning Swim post.

o/t

shout out to Rayne - just caught Lansing Mayor Virg Bernero (sp?) on MSNBC – he was fabulous – hitting every note, upbeat, sharp, poised. seriously, the best voice I’ve heard advocating for Bailout.

is that typical for him ? if so, where y’all been hidin’ him ?!?

Same reason Tom DeLay isn’t?

Most of those guys did themselves in, it wouldn’t have mattered who was in the WH or Justice Dept..

Delay is still under indictment in Texas state court in Travis County (Austin).

Although he should also probably be facing federal charges through the Abramoff cr*p as well.

Link, please? Pretty please with maple syrup?

Bob in HI

i put “pressured” in quotes specifically because of what Enron did to California and the role it played in Gray’s recall. but overall what i’m getting at leads to three roads of inquiry.

1. eventually comparing the number of Governors ousted from office in the last 8 years with similar time periods previously
2. the use of wiretaps
3. possible purposeful use of federal power to diminish state’s power

p.s. i’d forgotten about Gibbons

And chocolate sprinkles?

Well, I was living in Connecticut during Rowland’s period in office and in Illinois when Ryan was Governor and the news for both was fairly strong that they got lucky with how limited their prosecutions actually were. Both had multiple staffers go to jail as well.

Davis was rolled but not prosecuted.

Siegelman was most likely screwed in a blatantly political prosecution

McGreevy (and Spitzer) were just dumb. Although admittedly, there is a bit of smell to the timing of the Spitzer crap.

I don’t think there’s any nefarious plot to take over state governments; I just think there have been a whole lot of people who thought the rules and laws didn’t apply to them. From the Dem party and the Rep party. I actually think that if anything, the Reps are blessed that BushCo has been running things and keeping a lot of their people out of jail and protecting them as much as possible.

i largely agree, but with this caveat

i suspect that perhaps with exceptions for the smallest of states, most every one who reaches the Governors office has done, or will quickly do, something which can be used to ‘pressure’ them out of office if it should come to light. i do not think of it in terms of takeovers, but more of roiling the waters and putting in their place i.e. sending a message.

the numerical comparisons of previous 8 year periods may prove useful.

p.s. patton and fletcher of kentucky may also qualify. somehow gibbons survived the “treatment”

Patton termed out after two terms. Prior to him, state law did not allow a governor to serve two consecutive terms.

And Fletcher screwed himself after campaigning on being an ethical, Christian minister then conspiring to subvert the state civil service system, using politics to hire folks rather than qualifications. He issued a blanket pardon to everyone in his administration (including some under indictment) except for himself and wound up negotiating a plea with the state AG on his charges (I believe a misdemeanor rather than a felony). The then AG was a Democrat and no one in DC was involved at all.

tyvm on the fletcher and patton info (though patton’s senate bid was derailed whilst he was still Gov)

all i can find so far from the previous 8 year period was Jim Guy Tucker of Arkansas.

Patton had very limited opportunity for the Senate even in the best of times and after 8 years as Gov, it wasn’t going to happen. KY governors tend to not be real popular after 4 years, much less 8 years in office. The state pays far more attention to doings in Frankfort than they ever do to things in Washington.

oops… forgot to add

even Jim Guy Tucker’s “pressure” came from a “semi” Republican appointed “Independent” special prosecutor

O halcyon days of Hope!
As a reminder here’s a brief account of the First Fitzmas.

siri, don’t play with us. Stand forth, and deliver! Link, please!

BTW, the world thinks Rove “won” back in 2005. I don’t know. We didn’t know then how thoroughly politicized DOJ was. Fitz did well to indict and convict Libby under such circumstances, despite any attempts Rove may have made to scuttle Fitz’s case.

And Fitz has survived, despite any attempts Rove may have made to remove him from office. Fitz may have stopped short of indicting Rove, but he may have something on Rove that we don’t know about, that he can use to shield himself from Rove’s machinations, and that we might hear about after January 20.

I suspect that Fitz is better at chess than Rove.

Bob in HI

i don’t know about chess bob
but i would say that from all i’ve seen of Patrick Fitzgerald
is that if there were anything, even the slightest instance of
malfeasance or perception of impropriety, it would have been
trumpeted by Rove & Co. to the high heavens. which is why,
regardless of party affiliation, i was hoping he would become
the next Attorney General of the United States.

but now, alas…

That was from a story in ‘05. too bad

Bush will issue a blanket pardon one minute to midnight on Jan 19th. Then we’ll see how far the Democrats guts extend to overturning so many illegal rules and regulations in the 60 day window http://www.ombwatch.org/articl…..4400/1/550 they have to do so. After that, America and Obama not necessarily in that order, will be bound by them until the whole rule making process is instituted…years

Dakine01 is wise.