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	<title>Comments on: Franken-Coleman Recount, 12/1/08:  Chaos Chaos Chaos!  (Not.)</title>
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		<title>By: JohnEmerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnEmerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Each county sets its own schedule for recounting, within a deadline set by the state. Several counties started counting today, and several more will start on Wednesday.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The big story on the recount so far, almost the only story, is the noisy Coleman media campaign, which has convinced a fair number of Americans (mostly outside Minnesota) that the election is being stolen. The truth is that the Minnesota recount process is spelled out in detail and has been well organized and well executed so far. The only reason there’s any noise is that the election has been unbelievably close. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/11/its-what-they-do-by-digby-karl-rove.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Digby&lt;/a&gt; has reported on how the Republicans can win a close election by putting pressure on the courts and other monitors. This is Coleman’s playbook. He’ll stink up the place until he wins. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If the election is undecidable and remains contested, the Senate will vote to seat one candidate or the other. The Democratic Senate should vote to seat Franken, the same way a Republican Senate would vote to seat Coleman. The Republicans will scream about that, but we should laugh at them. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway, the big game now is the media game. The recount is mostly routine, and the legal challenges are for the judges, but Coleman is playing the media hard.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each county sets its own schedule for recounting, within a deadline set by the state. Several counties started counting today, and several more will start on Wednesday.</p>
<p>The big story on the recount so far, almost the only story, is the noisy Coleman media campaign, which has convinced a fair number of Americans (mostly outside Minnesota) that the election is being stolen. The truth is that the Minnesota recount process is spelled out in detail and has been well organized and well executed so far. The only reason there’s any noise is that the election has been unbelievably close. </p>
<p><a href="http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/11/its-what-they-do-by-digby-karl-rove.html" rel="nofollow">Digby</a> has reported on how the Republicans can win a close election by putting pressure on the courts and other monitors. This is Coleman’s playbook. He’ll stink up the place until he wins. </p>
<p>If the election is undecidable and remains contested, the Senate will vote to seat one candidate or the other. The Democratic Senate should vote to seat Franken, the same way a Republican Senate would vote to seat Coleman. The Republicans will scream about that, but we should laugh at them. </p>
<p>Anyway, the big game now is the media game. The recount is mostly routine, and the legal challenges are for the judges, but Coleman is playing the media hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sweet, indeed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Everythingseemssoneat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Everythingseemssoneat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;katymine- Like the Washington Post reported today, they’re going to deploy troops on the streets of America. Franken, like most Democrats don’t hit hard enough. People don’t understand how serious this is. I agree with someone I heard on the radio who said many American’s won’t admit they were wrong until they’re sitting in a pile of their own S*it in a FEMA camp. Bush stole both eledtions, 9/11 was an inside job, there were no WMD in Iraq and the Secretary of Homeland Security, Attorney General and incoming White House chief of staff are dual citizens of Israel.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>katymine- Like the Washington Post reported today, they’re going to deploy troops on the streets of America. Franken, like most Democrats don’t hit hard enough. People don’t understand how serious this is. I agree with someone I heard on the radio who said many American’s won’t admit they were wrong until they’re sitting in a pile of their own S*it in a FEMA camp. Bush stole both eledtions, 9/11 was an inside job, there were no WMD in Iraq and the Secretary of Homeland Security, Attorney General and incoming White House chief of staff are dual citizens of Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: pdaly</title>
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		<dc:creator>pdaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;several counties are still counting &lt;strong&gt;and a handful haven’t even started&lt;/strong&gt; yet.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Interesting. What are those counties waiting for? A better sense of how many votes separate a democrat from his seat in Congress? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As the wolf would have said to Riding Hood: “the better to count the remaining ballots with.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>several counties are still counting <strong>and a handful haven’t even started</strong> yet.</p>
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<p>Interesting. What are those counties waiting for? A better sense of how many votes separate a democrat from his seat in Congress? </p>
<p>As the wolf would have said to Riding Hood: “the better to count the remaining ballots with.”</p>
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		<title>By: RevBev</title>
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		<dc:creator>RevBev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How nice for this to come out as Gov. Palin is urging on the Ga Republicans in incomprehensible cheers and cadences.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How nice for this to come out as Gov. Palin is urging on the Ga Republicans in incomprehensible cheers and cadences.</p>
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		<title>By: MadDog</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Totally OT - If you’re hankering for a good chuckle, take the time to read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/24375710/requiem_for_a_maverick&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Matt Taibbi’s piece&lt;/a&gt; in Rolling Stone:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Requiem for a Maverick&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;John McCain ran one of the most incompetent, schizo campaigns in history — and for that we owe him big-time&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Election night at the Biltmore in Arizona is a hilariously dismal scene, like a funeral for a family member nobody liked, who died owing everyone money…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally OT &#8211; If you’re hankering for a good chuckle, take the time to read <a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/24375710/requiem_for_a_maverick" rel="nofollow">Matt Taibbi’s piece</a> in Rolling Stone:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Requiem for a Maverick</strong></p>
<p>John McCain ran one of the most incompetent, schizo campaigns in history — and for that we owe him big-time</p>
<p>Election night at the Biltmore in Arizona is a hilariously dismal scene, like a funeral for a family member nobody liked, who died owing everyone money…</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
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		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Are you saying that Franken shut down the reporting because AA would otherwise sound wacko?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you saying that Franken shut down the reporting because AA would otherwise sound wacko?</p>
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		<title>By: katymine</title>
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		<dc:creator>katymine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Brad Freeman from Bradblog and Randi Rhodes have a lot to say about this. When Randi was reporting the 2004 election from Florida and seeing significant election irregularities both in FL and OH, it was Frankin that shut down any reporting of these issues on Air America.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The big problem with election irregularities and fraud is that they don’t use just one method but 10-15 methods spread across a state. So when someone tries to investigate and fight it, it looks like conspiracy wacko tin foil hat time vs say in county X they one thing and county Y they another….. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I happen to live in a district in AZ where the ballots were seized by the FBI in 2006 over a GOP primary…… funny how they are now trying to fight election crimes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad Freeman from Bradblog and Randi Rhodes have a lot to say about this. When Randi was reporting the 2004 election from Florida and seeing significant election irregularities both in FL and OH, it was Frankin that shut down any reporting of these issues on Air America.  </p>
<p>The big problem with election irregularities and fraud is that they don’t use just one method but 10-15 methods spread across a state. So when someone tries to investigate and fight it, it looks like conspiracy wacko tin foil hat time vs say in county X they one thing and county Y they another….. </p>
<p>I happen to live in a district in AZ where the ballots were seized by the FBI in 2006 over a GOP primary…… funny how they are now trying to fight election crimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Really nice to see Chris Bowers on Hardball.  Things are looking up!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really nice to see Chris Bowers on Hardball.  Things are looking up!</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I wonder why the expensive suits and the mysterious money Coleman’s wife &lt;strike&gt;made&lt;/strike&gt; took isn’t on the radar anymore…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why the expensive suits and the mysterious money Coleman’s wife <strike>made</strike> took isn’t on the radar anymore…</p>
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