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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Just How Angry Are Liberal Bloggers?&#8221; Boyce on Dean and Lieberman</title>
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		<title>By: MrWhy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrWhy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am not saying Palin == Kingsolver.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am saying that Kingsolver discusses her family raising turkeys from chick to adult for food, and the killing of the turkeys. She advocates free range feeding, and maybe these are free range birds. The Triple-D Farm &amp; Hatchery web page says:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;From live baby chicks to Thanksgiving turkeys, we are your best source for naturally fed and free-roaming poultry products here in state.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;She encourages supporting local farmers, and this is a local farm. In some sense, she discusses pardoning of a turkey, but she does it in a Darwinian way.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you are objecting to the raising and killing of turkey for food, then I hope you’re consistent in your morality, that’s all I’m saying. It isn’t bad when Palin supports it and good when Kingsolver supports it. It is what it is. Kingsolver isn’t really happy about the killing of the birds, but she accepts it as part of a sustainable lifestyle. Kingsolver prefers the word harvesting, by the way.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not saying Palin == Kingsolver.</p>
<p>I am saying that Kingsolver discusses her family raising turkeys from chick to adult for food, and the killing of the turkeys. She advocates free range feeding, and maybe these are free range birds. The Triple-D Farm &amp; Hatchery web page says:</p>
<blockquote><p>From live baby chicks to Thanksgiving turkeys, we are your best source for naturally fed and free-roaming poultry products here in state.</p>
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<p>She encourages supporting local farmers, and this is a local farm. In some sense, she discusses pardoning of a turkey, but she does it in a Darwinian way.</p>
<p>If you are objecting to the raising and killing of turkey for food, then I hope you’re consistent in your morality, that’s all I’m saying. It isn’t bad when Palin supports it and good when Kingsolver supports it. It is what it is. Kingsolver isn’t really happy about the killing of the birds, but she accepts it as part of a sustainable lifestyle. Kingsolver prefers the word harvesting, by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jane wants Joe out of the Senate and she helped make the happen in 2006, almost but for Lieberman’s friends in DC and Barack Obama.    So if that, then yes, she wants him out of the Democratic Party but here’s the thing.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The original question was whether Joe Traitor Droopy-Dog War-Monger Deceitful-Liar Bush-kissing Fuckhead should keep his seniority (as a Democrat) and his gavel in light of HIS choice during the election to support McCain, Coleman and Collins, to lie about Obama on the campaign trail, and to perform inadequetly as chair over the last four years.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Imagine of the thrust of the objection to Joe’s chaiormanship of  Homeland was Joe’s performance over the last four and not vengeance.  Where  would we be now?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Reid met with him and said, we’re not happy, there has to be a consequence, we’re taking away homeland and giving you a subcommittee gavel.  Joe countered with an implied threat, do that and I may need to make a choice. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then Joe went to work calling in chits and reframing the story in the press, as a question of whether the Dems were going to throw him out of the party.  How unreasonable and punitive.  It worked. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By allowing it to be framed as a vindictive move, we lost.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane wants Joe out of the Senate and she helped make the happen in 2006, almost but for Lieberman’s friends in DC and Barack Obama.    So if that, then yes, she wants him out of the Democratic Party but here’s the thing.  </p>
<p>The original question was whether Joe Traitor Droopy-Dog War-Monger Deceitful-Liar Bush-kissing Fuckhead should keep his seniority (as a Democrat) and his gavel in light of HIS choice during the election to support McCain, Coleman and Collins, to lie about Obama on the campaign trail, and to perform inadequetly as chair over the last four years.  </p>
<p>Imagine of the thrust of the objection to Joe’s chaiormanship of  Homeland was Joe’s performance over the last four and not vengeance.  Where  would we be now?</p>
<p>Reid met with him and said, we’re not happy, there has to be a consequence, we’re taking away homeland and giving you a subcommittee gavel.  Joe countered with an implied threat, do that and I may need to make a choice. </p>
<p>Then Joe went to work calling in chits and reframing the story in the press, as a question of whether the Dems were going to throw him out of the party.  How unreasonable and punitive.  It worked. </p>
<p>By allowing it to be framed as a vindictive move, we lost.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was at the Liberal Blogger Bar last night, and I was so mad I blurted out “All politicians are a$$h*les!!!” A guy at the end of the bar got offended and yelled “You take that back!” I asked “Why, are you a politician?” He said “No, I’m an a$$h*le”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the Liberal Blogger Bar last night, and I was so mad I blurted out “All politicians are a$$h*les!!!” A guy at the end of the bar got offended and yelled “You take that back!” I asked “Why, are you a politician?” He said “No, I’m an a$$h*le”</p>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
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		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ben Porritt is among the most vapid of the Gooper SpokesNuts™. I’m sure that if one of the better flacks was run out there, you would have been swayed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben Porritt is among the most vapid of the Gooper SpokesNuts™. I’m sure that if one of the better flacks was run out there, you would have been swayed.</p>
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		<title>By: marshen</title>
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		<dc:creator>marshen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Where do these republican talking heads get the notion that we elected Obama for bi-partisanship? Where have they been for the last two years? The Obama message is being hijacked, and the liberal bloggers are being scape goated and villainized once again. Nobody is talking about the historical reasons why we have issues with Lieberman just the petty campaign ones.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do these republican talking heads get the notion that we elected Obama for bi-partisanship? Where have they been for the last two years? The Obama message is being hijacked, and the liberal bloggers are being scape goated and villainized once again. Nobody is talking about the historical reasons why we have issues with Lieberman just the petty campaign ones.</p>
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		<title>By: skippy</title>
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		<dc:creator>skippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;hey, this is old news.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you can tell because the market ticker had the dow jones in positive territory…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, this is old news.</p>
<p>you can tell because the market ticker had the dow jones in positive territory…</p>
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		<title>By: marymccurnin</title>
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		<dc:creator>marymccurnin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“I get a nice layer of cat hair when my toast goes jelly side down.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At my house we call that ruffage.&lt;br /&gt;
meow.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I get a nice layer of cat hair when my toast goes jelly side down.”</p>
<p>At my house we call that ruffage.<br />
meow.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;and i am surprised you can draw a likeness if you read the book….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;mary matlin explaining the same thinga s we speak on fox….no shit. but what she describes is the shadow grazer.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and i am surprised you can draw a likeness if you read the book….</p>
<p>mary matlin explaining the same thinga s we speak on fox….no shit. but what she describes is the shadow grazer.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i don’t think they have the same ‘intent’, so it isn’t the same act.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don’t think they have the same ‘intent’, so it isn’t the same act.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;love kingsolver - but haven’t read that one.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>love kingsolver &#8211; but haven’t read that one.</p>
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