The recanvassing is done, the initial vote tally was certified, and now the full recount has begun for the 2008 US Senate race between incumbent Republican Norm Coleman and Democratic challenger Al Franken.
So far, things are looking good for Al. As Nate Silver explains:
Of Franken’s net 43-vote gain, a net of 27 of those votes came from just two towns in Saint Louis County, Ely and Eveleth. These Northern villages, characteristically highly Democratic, use an older type of vote scanning technology called the Optech IIIP Eagle which is less reliable and requires use of an alternate ballot design. The Star Tribune reports, however, that about half the Saint Louis County precincts with the Eagle machines have already had their votes re-counted. Thus, it would be dangerous to extrapolate results from these precincts (and therefore to some extent Franken’s overall gain today) to the county or statewide levels.
On the other hand, the precincts that were re-counted today were slightly redder than average, having favored Coleman by an aggregate of 3.3 points during the initial count. No votes have yet been re-counted in Minneapolis (out of more than 200,000 cast), although about 43,000 have been recounted in St. Paul (out of around 140,000 cast on Election Day). Another city which has not yet reported any results is Duluth, traditionally a Democratic stronghold.
Bear in mind here that Nate’s being a bit more cautious than many of the folks in his comments section. He’s also being a bit more cautious than local blogger and longtime Minnesota DFL observer Flash, who believes that Franken is "likely" to win the recount. As Flash notes here, Coleman’s strategy (and that of the RNC and its media surrogates) is to do everything possible to undermine the perceived legitimacy of the recount; they wouldn’t be doing that if they thought Coleman was a lock to win it. Even the massive amounts of bogus vote-challenging they’ve been reported as doing won’t help them much, as bogus challenges won’t be allowed to stand. (To follow the recount live, go to The UpTake’s site, where Mike McIntee’s got out his calculator. So far Franken’s temporarily lost around 17 votes in Minneapolis, but those are all from challenges, most of which will be dismissed by the board.)
The only concrete way in which all of the Republican-generated water-muddying might actually affect the recount is by causing enough bogus FUD to throw the election to the US Senate — which of course would be the basis for more bogus FUD on the GOP’s part, as they would use this to claim that Franken, who would win in the Senate, would have an illegitimate win.





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Thanks PW!
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I have never been so proud to be #2
Good Afternoon PW.
Raisen Toast? Garlic Toast, or?
Or burnt brussell sprouts?
(apologies to b.s. lovers.)
it’s a fine minnesota-style norwegian flatbread! yum!
me loves pw’s optimism, I have to admit, I was really surprised franken didn’t run away with it
May I have some homemade berry jam Mit that?
I hope Al wins by a handful of votes against Coleman and then says to Coleman, “My family voted you out”. LOL!
Sorry, it’s a Lutefisk spread… extra lutie!
There must be a Jewish joke in here somewhere.
Heh. CNBC reporter challenged Paulson’s “When facts changed, I changed my mind.” She asked him what facts changed, and voila … got no answer.
After today’s stock market, seems to me W needs to tell Paulson to go to an undiclosed location along with W and Vice.
Minnesota Senate Recount
Challenged ballots ~ You be the judge!
WHooohoooo!!
Tweety just did a piece on his show about how rejected ballots in Michigan that were marked by the voters. Some people made goofy symbols and one was marked both Franken and Coleman and then at the top and bottom they wrote in the candidate”s name as Lizard People. What is wrong with these people that they would go to the trouble to vote and them waste it like that? if you want to vent, or make a statement and are clearly frustrated with the election process, use the blogs that’s what they are for people!
short term t-bills.
is that 0% interest or is it just so close i can’t tell the difference?
This could be the most important seat of them all, because Al Franken seems to have the qualities of a great progressive leader
707!
thanks.
I would not want to be in their position.
I have recently been reminded that 3-month U.S. treasury bills are sold at a discount/premium, so that nominal interest rate can actually be negative.
Minnesota should use the ink-marker-in-the-hole system we use in Los Angeles. It would prevent voters from making a mess out of the ballots and save the state a boat load of money. This system allows you only to vote by making an ink dot in the bubble and nothing else. If you make a mistake in voting for the wrong candidate, you just go get a new ballot and start over. It works great.
so no need to worry, they can go lower???
according to BBC 67,000 factories have closed in China. I just keep wondering when americans will have that little lightbulb go on in their heads and decide they want to be valued as human beings, not as consumers.
China moves to stem mass layoffs
am i allowed to post here?
Ew. ptha, ptha.
Lutie does not equal berries.
Of course, as always, I could be wrong.
(I meant to say, why, no, thank yewwwwwww.) *g*
No policy conclusions to be drawn from the behavior of US treasury interest rates because they still benefit from the “flight to quality,” i.e. US treasury yields plummet when the world is uncertain. Apparently an astoundingly large rally occurred in the long-term US bond market today, owing to deflation fears, exascerbated (about the 10th time I’ve used that word today) by no bridge loan to auto industry.
All ironies allowed, when US govt debt represents safety while US govt is source of problem.
This is a time when interest rate differentials balloon. It was the TED-spread that alerted to the freeze in credit markets over toxic assets.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TED_spread
If I were still on Wall St., I’d be tracking some interest rate spreads to track how the debacle was getting better or worse.
The only way to get out of the doghouse is to strain at the leash.
never been in one myself. don’t know how to act. just tryin to ask the moderator. i’m just a troll ya know.
Thought you would be taller “g”
*sniff sniff* Yep! That’s toast I’m smelling!
CR is doing it for us – almost every day, here’s today’s.
mebe i’ll grow?
I love that page lou, I was hoping they would have put in pseudo names so our preferance would not influence our opinion
my guess is yes
I’ve offended just about everyone here at one point or another (interestingly, mostly by asking neutral Qs that get internatized as value judgements by other commenters). You will not be prohibited (as near as I know the rules) from posting unless you violate some fairly basic principles, like sock puppeting, death threats, lack of courtesy to professional guests, etc.
You may get flack if you express opinions that are not appreciated by one or more other commenters. In that case it is up to you if you still feel comfortable here or if you wish to find a home elsewhere.
From what I’ve read from you, you seem like a good fit.
Oh, and if you really offend someone, a sincere apology goes a long way. I don’t remember your dust-up so I wouldn’t recommend any specifics.
Thanks. I’ve bookmarked it.
Good news for us. Ailes signed up for 5 more years.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/…..news-corp/
It’s remarkable that bias didn’t seem apparent – if Norm Coleman’s circle looked marked, peeps voted he won that ballot.