Comments on: El Coyote: Anger, Tears–and Maybe Hope?

By: sdrDusty

sdrDusty — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:52:57 +0000

Take no prisoners.

By: mirele

mirele — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:12:33 +0000

You know, for a $100 donation, I would have just called it even after the first protest. She knows how people feel. Except for one thing that was pointed out to me on the Great Orange Satan today.

http://www.meridianmagazine.co.....11war.html

This is a link to an article on Meridian Magazine, which is an LDS magazine, and the article is by a head honcho in Yes on 8, Gary Lawrence. A lot of this is going to sail right over non-Mormons’ heads, so let me try to explain. Basically, Lawrence compares those of us who have no problem with gay marriage to those premortal spirits who joined with Lucifer in the war in heaven. So, in other words, in Lawrence’s mind, if you don’t support Prop 8, you’re then supporting Satan. This is the kind of language that was being spread in LDS circles.

So my question is, how much can you really trust someone who gave $100 to a cause that was promoted by hateful rhetoric that compared supporters of gay marriage to followers of Satan? If Ms. Christoffersen was a regular church attender, I’m sure she heard similar overheated rhetoric coming over the pulpit. I mean, how much can you say you like gay people when, behind their backs, in the privacy of your own churches and your own websites, your people are posting dreck like this? Seriously?

(Which is why it’s Not In My Name anymore. I sent my resignation letter in last Sunday.)

By: PapaZita

PapaZita — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:05:03 +0000

While I feel badly for the staff, Christoffersen could easily defuse the situation but will not. In my area, there is a local ice creamery (Leatherby’s) that gave far more to the Yes on 8 campaign, both in the individual owners’ names and in the company’s name. Guess where I’m never going for ice cream, and I am not gay, either. Businesses that wish to discriminate against patrons shouldn’t be let off the hook for sentimental reasons. Just because a few slaves were treated well by their owners didn’t make slavery any less abhorrent. Sentiment belongs nowhere near policy. It’s like freedom of speech. You have it, but you own the words and those words have consequences you own, too. Freedom of speech never meant freedom from consequences.

By: randiego

randiego — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:04:45 +0000

To me this seems like targeting an individual with personal beliefs; she does not speak for the restaurant. She does not deserve to be singled out. Closing the restaurant where she works does not serve the citizens of Los Angeles.

Man, LaNona - I’m with you. This seems like Republican ideological-purity tests all over again. That woman has a right to be wrong in her opinions and a right to make this donation as an individual.

What’s next - burn her at the stake? This needs to stop.

I’m in san diego, so it doesn’t really affect me, but Jeebus.

By: LaNona

LaNona — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:08:54 +0000

To me this seems like targeting an individual with personal beliefs; she does not speak for the restaurant. She does not deserve to be singled out. Closing the restaurant where she works does not serve the citizens of Los Angeles.

It would be better in my opinion to call out the bad guys on this which are the Mormon Church, the Catholic Church and its Knights of Columbs, the Focus on Family bunch and the Scientologists.

This lady, who is entitled to her opinion, is not a mega-structure, and her donation did little to sway voters. She is a bystander. I support her right to make political donations as she wishes. She is not the enemy and neither is El Coyote. The statement has been made, and I hope the demonstrators move on to the real enemies of the people.

Save El Coyote. Dine there soon.

By: ratfood

ratfood — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:33:15 +0000

I know the protesters think it is the principle that matters but there are much more deserving targets for their wrath. The goal appears to be to instill fear in business owners tempted to support something like Prop 8. Fear is the same tactic the LDS and other haters use. There must be a better way.

By: Ann in AZ

Ann in AZ — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:39:10 +0000

Jane has a new post up: Obama Shunning Lieberman

By: Quebecois

Quebecois — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:39:00 +0000

Let’s face it, this person has been crushed by her church. And deep down, she knows she is wrong. Facing that reality will probably kill that woman, and her venerable business.

By: BooRadley

BooRadley — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:32:20 +0000

Thanks Lisa.

digg

By: oursin

oursin — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:28:12 +0000

While I certainly understand folks being very pissed off now, it seems wrong to direct that anger towards someone with such a good heart, and making this restaurant the target. They are not Coors after all. There are
many more deserving objects, people, establishments to focus on I think.