Evan Bayh: I mean, he said things that were simply unacceptable, and I think he needs to apologize for that.
I don’t think that’s quite how Joe sees it:
The equivalent of Harry Whittington apologizing for the embarrassment he caused Cheney by getting shot in the face.
Never happen.



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He won’t apologize because he never thinks he’s wrong. It’s someone else who broke that cookie jar.
Putz.
Liarbermann is a wanker. He is a two-faced, backstabbing, lil’ wanker.
OT- AN e-mail just now from the Charlie Brown campaign in California indicates they are closing the gap, only 815 votes behind.
That would be awesome.
Love to see Brown in Congress.
The election is over. Let the post election parodies begin!! See “Why Can’t We (at least pretend to) Be Friends?” at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkS6qZg4mo4
I won’t believe it even if I see it. Lieberman is a snake and he should not be the chair of the Homeland Security committee.
If Lieberman ever apologizes for anything he did during this election cycle, I’ll eat my fedora with soy sauce.
This isn’t about Lieberman now. It’s about the Democrats in the Senate and whether they have any self-respect.
It’s still the 110th, the same one who when asked by Cheney’s minions bend over, would answer “how far”?
It’s disgusting that Lieberman is in the driver’s seat, thanks to the Dems. Here’s hoping he made them some big promises that he’ll actually keep.
- Tom
good news on Charlie.
simply can not wait until the next census and Placerville is it’s own damn district – this would have been over with Election Night – harrumph
Why in the Hell of Being Skinned Alive would anybody trust him at this point?
If JoeL wants to stay in the Democratic caucus, he doesn’t get any committee chairs (unless it’s the committee on public restrooms in parks).
He left the party when he decided to run as the CfL candidate, and he lost his seniority then, IMO.
How many more times do we have to explain this to the Incumbent Protection Racket?
Maybe if Liarman apologizes for being alive he can still caucus with the Dems… Nah throw the bum out and make him grovel!!
bayh says lieberman can be removed as chair of the committee at any time?
Democrats? Self-respect? If they had any, they would have canned HoJo’s ass on November 5.
About as likely to happen as the Democrats getting a backbone.
sigh
too true
bayh must think he’s throwing us a bone.
not biting here.
big pot of chicken soup is done and cooling. nite all….
The Senate Scold, apologize? I would love to see it, but I wouldn’t believe it either.
Sorry, no vasoline either…
WayneC
Once a A’hole …… always a A’hole…… and they just don’t apologize…
They think we are all rubes and so they treat us as ones.
LIEberman is an asshole all the way to the bone. He will never apologize and will turn on the Dems at the first opportunity. Letting him keep his seniority is a kind of slow motion political suicide.
Can not beleive what a gaggle of losers we have as Democrat Leaders. Joe Liarman can lead them about? Apparently, this is what Democrats want. Glad I voted for Nader. I didn’t vote for these “may I bend over further” Democrats.
Lieberman will always suffer from a bad case of being Lieberman. He will not change.
What can change is peer response to his behavior. Oh, but will they?
Just a swing by, after an evening meeting, to see what’s going on.
Yep. Same old.
I know, what was I thinking?
Lieberman will never change as long as he is rewarded for being a slimy duplicitous toad, which is what is happening here.
Thanks Jane. Good evening firepups.
way behind on comments–
I don’t remember if it was on Olberman or Rachel, but Bayh in the middle of being declaratively definitive and concise in laying out the grid of the barnyard, left the barn door wide open for Lieberman. I listened closely, that’s what I heard.
The other day with the help[ of SpotlightI wrote over a thousand letters saying it’s not about his backing the McCain Campaign and Spotlighted Jane’s post about the list of reasons that are more pertinent.
today I sent out more–cuz they’re still missing the fucking point.
–snip–
Lieberman is the Chair of the Committee for Homeland Security. What does that mean? Defense.
Defense Money. Where is the money spent?
Connecticut. And other places. Enter a state and see. But Connecticut is the origin of contracts that are the ‘meat of the meal’ for the rest of the States’ trickle-down. For the Pentagon.
http://www.fedspending.org/fpd…..ateCode=CT
My Uncle worked for The Guggenheim Institute during WWII. Located at that not so secret hangar in Akron, Ohio-so large it rains inside, it has its own atmosphere, no joke. It was located at the old Goodyear Plant, same place as the Blimps-Airships my Uncle insists we call them. Someone would design a new bomb or weapon and they had to redesign the planes and subs that would carry that bomb. A self-fulfilling, self-sustaining contract. Design a new nuance and the whole structure has to be updated. Still going on. So he says. So he knows. Look up The Guggenheim Institute and see what all they designed. And later I will mention grants-keep this paragraph in mind.
Make sure to look at the ‘expanded list’ for the categories. It goes from most money to ‘loss’ money. Always notice the ‘negative entries’ according to my Accountant father. The ‘write offs’. They tell a tale of their own. They will stand out, you don’t need me to explain them,.
Then go to the ‘grants’ tab. A lot there to notice. Universities are free research for corporations. Notice the amounts are HUGE. Notice they are related to the defense corporations in the ‘contracts’ section tab I linked above. Just Teh Google the Universities and the grants, all kinds of stuff they send to Alumni will pop up. They brag a lot to get money and publish it-dumb. Remember follow the money rule #2? Grant money, has to be declared and accounted for, publicly.
Joe ‘ain’t’ goin’ nowhere, not unless this aspect is related to the reason for his tenure. Notice who is not saying a peep, notice who is speaking out. Fearmongering of what will happen to our country if our defense is weakened is a fine way to ensure that these contracts and grants will continue to flow to his state and the trickle-down states that get billions from their being in operation.
I’m sure these corporations will do just fine without their junkyard dog guarding them.
If not, maybe they can be eligible for bailout money.
I told someone the other day that you can’t count on your chicken dinner tomorrow if you leave the fox in the henhouse.
===
I’ll go look for the Bayh footage.
Off to bed to dream of a world where Lieberman is consigned to cleaning the Senate toilets – with his tongue.
I am truly disgusted by what I’ve heard regarding Lieberman and his distain for president-elect Obama.
sleep well
Wow!
Love you DrDick.
Well, not my idea of sweet dreams, but if that works for you.
((dick))
Why would Obama and the Senate Democrats want Lieberman to retain his gavel?
Unless we can answer that question, we can’t unlock the mystery.
But I can do one thing — I’ll withhold my planned $100 contribution to Jim Martin’s runoff campaign against the odious GOP Saxby Chambliss in Georgia.
If the Senate Democrats reward Lieberman’s disloyalty by giving him the HSGO gavel, they have no interest in getting to 60. Because they’ll never get 60 votes if Democrats can betray their party, their party’s president, and their Senate colleagues without consequence.
No gavel? Then I’ll donate $100 to Martin. It’s that simple for me.
If he gets kicked out of the dem caucus, will he quit and be replaced with a repiglican by the rep CT governor?
may I recommend the Senatorial Steak Sauce instead?
he has threatened to caucus with the r’s. if he quits, good. at least the r would be an r and not a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
Lieberman should have been made to walk the plank on Nov. 5.
Hi Suzanne and everyone else….. heading off to bed……
today was really stressful…… why is it the person with cancer gets all the fun of tell family and friends the news…….. nothing like more stress….. tomorrow is my last day of work and on to the fun of short term disability……
tossed out on his arse after being cashiered on the senate floor 11/5 was my dream
(((katymine)))
hi katymine
feel better please. pulling for you
oh katymine! you’re in my thoughts!
I say send him to Iceland to experience some IMF austerity. Its cold there, they can’t afford heating oil and there are food lines ;-P
IMHO,the debate over how to deal with Lieberman is being played out on the wrong turf. His disloyalty to the Democratic Party is an issue, but the bigger one is that he is an imcompetent schmuck who shouldn’t be given any serious responsibilities in the Senate. This is a guy who thought that McCain/Palin was the superior choice to lead the nation. Lieberman was willing to trust Sarah Palin with our arsenal of 5,500 nuclear weapons. Anybody whose judgement is that far off the mark should be out of consideration for any sort of leadership role. Sheesh…
Hugs katymine,
I’m visualizing a little early.
Lieberman … I sent a ‘don’t you dare let him keep the gavel’ message to my Senator (Bingaman).
Got an email back this morning that consisted of a subject line (Response to your comment) and one line in the message: “Letter goes here.”
Some idiot sent me the form for Bingaman’s office’s response.
So I hit reply and said, “I don’t think that ‘Letter goes here’ is much of a response.”
Then I reiterated my opposition to Lieberman, laying out the basics. He campaigned against Obama, raised money and campaigned for Republican Senate candidates in close races. Told them that Lieberman can’t be trusted with the hearings necessary out of that committee.
We’ll see what I get back next.
How are you feeling TB?
Jayzus.
Lieberman apologizing fer bein’ a prick is like me apologizing fer hating the little bastard fer being a prick.
Ain’t gonna happen.
somehow, considering Lieberman immune to discipline because he is a Defender of Israel seems to me sort of like considering John McCain off limits for any kind of criticism (no matter how heinous his conduct in the campaign) because he was a POW.
where do these people get their King’s X cards?
late late nite up at the mothership
I think they just print the damned things up and the good-ol’ boys in the Senate don’t check them for authenticity.
each day is a bit better. thanks for asking.
Rachel blast layin’ it all out, finally. except for what i posted at 31
i’ve written letters for week and a half saying it’s NOT about the mccain campaign. now i’m sending about the money at 31
must see video by rachel. bayh excerpts in her rant. can’t find the entire bayh segment, i give up.going to bed.
one of her finest moments. from tonight.,
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21…..9#27708359
This surprised me, too. I thought all during the last session, they were saying this could NOT be done. IIRC, when the New Congress “organizes,” part of that deal is who the chairmen are. To remove Lieberman, once appointed, would take another organizing resolution.
I think I also heard this to explain why Pelosi could not be removed as Speaker until the end of the session.
Bob in HI
To remove LIE-berman you will have to remove REID for LIE-berman is Reids Puppet master. And I do not want an Apology from LIE-berman I just would like him to leave through the hole that the Carptiner left and not leave the door hit LIE-berman on the way out.
Sometimes you just have to throw the bums out….
This would be one of those times.
Why would Obama and the Senate Democrats want Lieberman to retain his gavel?
So Connecticut can impeach him when he screws up?
duh, (red face)
the bayh video i couldn’t find is posted at the top. i was in a hurry last night. teh stupid.
Joementum will probably eat a club sandwich of Ham, Bacon and Cheese and wash it down with a glass of milk on Shabbes before he apologizes for being a colossal, sanctimonious prick to members of the Democratic Senate Caucus.
The whole premise of apology as recompense is bogus, as well as lame.
Bogus, because I’m sure that Lieberman could work up one of those conditional, not-personnally-responsible, non-apologies that say nothing worthwhile, if he wanted to.
Lame, because any apology short of naked self-flaggelation and abject groveling in public would not do justice to Lieberman’s transgressions. Actively campaigning against “your” guy? Joining the ugly, knuckle-draggers’ chorus of not trustworthy, socialist, and terrorist? Back-stabbing the very guy who helped save your own sorry ass?
Sorry, Evan. An apology doesn’t come close to cutting it. Put me down for some of that public groveling, just to remain in the caucus. Chairmanship of HS should be out of the question.