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	<title>Comments on: Lieberman After Meeting with Reid &#8211; Video</title>
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		<title>By: acquarius74</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/11/06/lieberman-meets-with-reid/comment-page-2/#comment-18874</link>
		<dc:creator>acquarius74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lieberman bought that chair with $250,000.  As for his promises, what are they worth?  He’s a turncoat.  He went Repub because he thought he would be VP.  “Country first”?? and he would have saddled America with Palin?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Create a subcommittee on Education and put him in the basement doing a study on the statistics of the No Child Left Behind program.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I signed Jane’s petition.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lieberman bought that chair with $250,000.  As for his promises, what are they worth?  He’s a turncoat.  He went Repub because he thought he would be VP.  “Country first”?? and he would have saddled America with Palin?</p>
<p>Create a subcommittee on Education and put him in the basement doing a study on the statistics of the No Child Left Behind program.</p>
<p>I signed Jane’s petition.</p>
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		<title>By: FermiPyle</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/11/06/lieberman-meets-with-reid/comment-page-2/#comment-18773</link>
		<dc:creator>FermiPyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A claim that ”But on Education, he was more progressive than any other senator, voting the progressive way on 23/23 roll calls” is false. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you go to the website Progressive Punch as cited, you see that in the Education and Housing categories, Lieberman was Tied (that’s the little T next to his ranking) with other senators who voted the progressive voting positions. On none of them was he ”More” progressive.  There were 14 broad categories, and on 12 of them he didn’t vote the progessive positions.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When the phone rang from the White House, Joe would hear and obey.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A claim that ”But on Education, he was more progressive than any other senator, voting the progressive way on 23/23 roll calls” is false. </p>
<p>If you go to the website Progressive Punch as cited, you see that in the Education and Housing categories, Lieberman was Tied (that’s the little T next to his ranking) with other senators who voted the progressive voting positions. On none of them was he ”More” progressive.  There were 14 broad categories, and on 12 of them he didn’t vote the progessive positions.  </p>
<p>When the phone rang from the White House, Joe would hear and obey.</p>
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		<title>By: treadlightly</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/11/06/lieberman-meets-with-reid/comment-page-2/#comment-18772</link>
		<dc:creator>treadlightly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Unless Reid is replaced as Majority Leader, I’m going to stop supporting the Democratic Party. Period.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless Reid is replaced as Majority Leader, I’m going to stop supporting the Democratic Party. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/11/06/lieberman-meets-with-reid/comment-page-2/#comment-18771</link>
		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We are not going to get a Democratic agenda through Congress by hating and excoriating people who don’t agree with us 100% of the time. So let’s get used to one fact: Joe Lieberman, for better or worse, will be a Senator for the next two years. How can we make the most of that?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ll stipulate that Joe is an S.O.B., especially when it concerns the War, and foreign policy in general. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But on Education, he was &lt;strong&gt;more progressive than any other senator&lt;/strong&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://progressivepunch.org/record.jsp?member=CTI&amp;district=At%20large&amp;issue=E1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;voting the progressive way on 23/23 roll calls&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He was also the most progressive on &lt;a href=&quot;http://progressivepunch.org/members.jsp?member=CTI&amp;district=At%20large&amp;issue=U0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Housing issues&lt;/a&gt;, voting the progressive way on 3/3 critical roll calls.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Currently, Sen. Kennedy is chair of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://help.senate.gov/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions&lt;/a&gt;, and he should keep that position as long as he wants to. There is no subcommittee on Education, although the Chair and Ranking Member could create one. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Housing jurisdiction is in the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs, with Chris Dodd as chair. There is a subcommittee on Housing, Transportation, and Community Development, but Schumer is the chair of that one.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So I don’t know the answer, but I’ll bet we get better mileage out of acknowledging Joe for what he does right, and giving him assignments accordingly, than for kicking his a** around Town about his major sins.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, BTW, did you know that during this last Congress, Lieberman’s Progressive Score was higher than Obama’s? (by a sliver).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know it sounds like I’m defending Lieberman, who I think is a ratfink. I do so only because I don’t like the hate speech and invective I see about him. But then, I talk that way about Nancy Pelosi…..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are not going to get a Democratic agenda through Congress by hating and excoriating people who don’t agree with us 100% of the time. So let’s get used to one fact: Joe Lieberman, for better or worse, will be a Senator for the next two years. How can we make the most of that?</p>
<p>I’ll stipulate that Joe is an S.O.B., especially when it concerns the War, and foreign policy in general. </p>
<p>But on Education, he was <strong>more progressive than any other senator</strong>, <a href="http://progressivepunch.org/record.jsp?member=CTI&amp;district=At%20large&amp;issue=E1" rel="nofollow">voting the progressive way on 23/23 roll calls</a>.</p>
<p>He was also the most progressive on <a href="http://progressivepunch.org/members.jsp?member=CTI&amp;district=At%20large&amp;issue=U0" rel="nofollow">Housing issues</a>, voting the progressive way on 3/3 critical roll calls.</p>
<p>Currently, Sen. Kennedy is chair of the <a href="http://help.senate.gov/" rel="nofollow">Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions</a>, and he should keep that position as long as he wants to. There is no subcommittee on Education, although the Chair and Ranking Member could create one. </p>
<p>Housing jurisdiction is in the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs, with Chris Dodd as chair. There is a subcommittee on Housing, Transportation, and Community Development, but Schumer is the chair of that one.</p>
<p>So I don’t know the answer, but I’ll bet we get better mileage out of acknowledging Joe for what he does right, and giving him assignments accordingly, than for kicking his a** around Town about his major sins.</p>
<p>And, BTW, did you know that during this last Congress, Lieberman’s Progressive Score was higher than Obama’s? (by a sliver).</p>
<p>I know it sounds like I’m defending Lieberman, who I think is a ratfink. I do so only because I don’t like the hate speech and invective I see about him. But then, I talk that way about Nancy Pelosi…..</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: wesgpc</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/11/06/lieberman-meets-with-reid/comment-page-2/#comment-18770</link>
		<dc:creator>wesgpc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lieberman did not perform his duties as committee chairman in the midst of numerous instances of grave administration incompetence and malfeasance, and his committee had the jurisdiction in that area. His inaction blocked needed investigations and seriously harmed and endangered US citizens, including the troops serving in war zones, whom he hypocritically claims to support so strongly. That neglect of his Senatorial duty is ample reason to demote him. We need some accountability for bigshots who use their high office irresponsibly, and Lieberman is a good place to start.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Take away his chairmanship. Give him some meansingless and humiliating subcommittee. Let him stew there as a disgraced has-been and let the Dems and GOP kick him around at their pleasure. That is better than kicking him out of the caucus.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lieberman did not perform his duties as committee chairman in the midst of numerous instances of grave administration incompetence and malfeasance, and his committee had the jurisdiction in that area. His inaction blocked needed investigations and seriously harmed and endangered US citizens, including the troops serving in war zones, whom he hypocritically claims to support so strongly. That neglect of his Senatorial duty is ample reason to demote him. We need some accountability for bigshots who use their high office irresponsibly, and Lieberman is a good place to start.</p>
<p>Take away his chairmanship. Give him some meansingless and humiliating subcommittee. Let him stew there as a disgraced has-been and let the Dems and GOP kick him around at their pleasure. That is better than kicking him out of the caucus.</p>
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		<title>By: Valley Girl</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/11/06/lieberman-meets-with-reid/comment-page-2/#comment-18769</link>
		<dc:creator>Valley Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One source for eg quote is:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/11/06/politics/politico/thecrypt/main4579302.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....9302.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Title: Reid, Lieberman To Continue Mulling Options&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OMG, the battle of two champion mullers.  Yep, you two get right onto it, mulling your options.  A battle for the ages.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One source for eg quote is:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/11/06/politics/politico/thecrypt/main4579302.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbsnews.com/stories&#8230;..9302.shtml</a></p>
<p>Title: Reid, Lieberman To Continue Mulling Options</p>
<p>OMG, the battle of two champion mullers.  Yep, you two get right onto it, mulling your options.  A battle for the ages.</p>
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		<title>By: clumpy</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/11/06/lieberman-meets-with-reid/comment-page-2/#comment-18768</link>
		<dc:creator>clumpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I foresee the committee head of the Special Projects Committee. The special project will be to find another job, of course. Time for letter number three Joe.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I foresee the committee head of the Special Projects Committee. The special project will be to find another job, of course. Time for letter number three Joe.</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/11/06/lieberman-meets-with-reid/comment-page-2/#comment-18767</link>
		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Why any chairmanship at all? He never did one thing about Katrina.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t think you know much about politics, and certainly that you don’t understand Obama. And I don’t know why you dragged Katrina into this when it has nothing to do with anything that I wrote.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please remember that we are a few votes short of the 60 needed to stop Republican filibusters, and Joe’s vote could be the deciding vote on close issues. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No one should just “give” Joe a chairmanship. But it is good politics for us to give him a chairmanship on something he has good progressive credentials about, &lt;strong&gt;in exchange for&lt;/strong&gt; a promise to vote with the Democratic caucus when 60 votes are needed. That’s a win-win for us.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Why any chairmanship at all? He never did one thing about Katrina.”</p>
<p>I don’t think you know much about politics, and certainly that you don’t understand Obama. And I don’t know why you dragged Katrina into this when it has nothing to do with anything that I wrote.</p>
<p>Please remember that we are a few votes short of the 60 needed to stop Republican filibusters, and Joe’s vote could be the deciding vote on close issues. </p>
<p>No one should just “give” Joe a chairmanship. But it is good politics for us to give him a chairmanship on something he has good progressive credentials about, <strong>in exchange for</strong> a promise to vote with the Democratic caucus when 60 votes are needed. That’s a win-win for us.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: ThreadTheorist</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThreadTheorist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Joe’s chances of winning CT as a Republican are Slim and None, and Slim is leaving for a new job in Washington, DC in January.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe’s chances of winning CT as a Republican are Slim and None, and Slim is leaving for a new job in Washington, DC in January.</p>
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		<title>By: Petrocelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petrocelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;OMG&lt;/strong&gt; … Obama is meeting Dubya next week … hope he takes an interpreter !&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>OMG</strong> … Obama is meeting Dubya next week … hope he takes an interpreter !</p>
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