So I’m reading this article in Time Magazine by Amy Sullivan, with the title
Races to Watch: Will the Netroots Sink a Microsoft Dem?
And I’m thinking, wow, has blogger support really been a problem for Darcy Burner? With a headline like that, surely someone must’ve done some polling. Or netroots support must be being used as a campaign issue in commercials. Because nobody would use a headline like that without some real evidence. So I’m skimming down the page…nothing, nothing…and then I come upon the final paragraph:
"Darcy Burner is pretty open about the fact that she wants to go to Congress to represent the netroots," Reichert’s campaign manager Mike Shields, told the Seattle Times. "That is her constituency, and that is who she raised money from, and so that’s who she’ll do the bidding of." But Democrats worry about the association as well. "The big question people are quietly asking about her," says one local Democratic consultant, "is, in building her movement, did she lose touch with the people she sought to serve?"
Really? That’s it? The Reichert campaign levels a shopworn critique that every campaign running against a netroots favorite tries to use, despite the fact that it’s never once had any measurable impact, and some Democrat goes "uh-huh," and suddenly we’re tanking her? No mention that the GOP has dumped money into the district, or that George Bush himself came and headlined a fundraiser. It’s the bloggers.
Amy Sullivan has been a target of blogger ire in the past, largely due to her propensity for assuming that her personal positions are far more reflective of those of the general populace than any empirical evidence would indicate.
And blogger critiques are frequently leveled by journalists who have had bad run-ins with the netroots in the past, and want to generalize their own experience way past anything that they merit.
With such scant evidence for her claims, one is tempted to suggest that Amy is projecting once again.
Update: I put in a call to Stoller who is up in Washington working on the campaign to ask him what this is all about. He says that Sullivan put in calls to "Democratic consultants" in the area, pissed that Darcy didn’t come up through their machine and had outside sources of funding and so wasn’t dependent on them. Since the complaints of a few people matched her own personal experience, it became a problem throughout the district that could tank Burner’s campaign — without the slightest shred of empirical evidence.
It’s "coalition of the embittered" time once again.





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sadder yet Jane.
Sullivan wrote a really good article 3+ years ago …
Fire The Consultants
yup, she knows better. says an awful lot about the ferocity with which they cling to their precious pov
Are the Netroots on the “anti-American” “socialist” watch list?
What does the GOP expect Seattle has Microsoft Duh! Of course Darcy is going to get online money from blogs in state.
Does anyone complain when the NRA gives money in Idaho?
Who needs them when the population here is well off and pissed that the market is down, and even more importantly housing prices are down here.
If the Rethugs and DLC Dems are afraid of us now, wait until after the election.
Is this statement backed up polling at least or did Time do a Judy Miller?
*G*
So the GOP can have screaming hordes of racists screaming death threats to Obama. But we can’t even be snarky? Heck is there a major Lefty Blog that allows you to post Death Threats to McCain and leaves the comments up?
Sounds like a double standard to me.
Aside from getting rid of Bush and Net neutrality just what is our evil agenda? I missed the last secret meeting?
Why is our agenda so bad that Reichert dare not even level a specific charge against us?
If Darcy Beats Reichert there will be a shockwave roar through Seattle.
There is a ton of money and ink being slung to beat her but she is holding her own, currently LEADING by four points even!
Yeah. I want to see Darcy wearing her Geek Speak “Stop War” t-shirt on the floor of the US House of Representatives (the one she’s wearing in the pics and vids after the fire).
I’ve gotta say that the fact that Darcy came up outside the WA State Demo party is the first, foremost and best thing about her.
The loosership of the WA State Demo has been incredibly pathetic. Their foisting of wishy-washy radio-talker Dave Ross on the district four years ago is a textbook example of top-down ham-handed bungling. If that was the time Darcy decided to run for the seat, it was probably clear to her that the WA State party would work to stop her rather than help her.
(I’ve already voted, and I sent a contribution to her site two days ago!)
Can’t help wonder: is “Amy” Andrew Sullivan’s drag name?
http://www.eschatonblog.com/20…..3858085211
What facts, polling Ouija board did Amy use to reach that assumption. That sounds like a sure way for the Dems to lose the Hilary voters.
I assume Amy has been called a Concern Troll for her concern about the Dems and the New Judy Miller for writing without facts.
Good Point the GOP’s money and dirty tricks are all you need to win election will take a beating.
We thankfully are running on issues and voters are paying attention.
Even so!
;~D
It’s not necessarily our agenda, IMO. It’s that we threaten the established structure of power.
And, they should be scared.
Hey, if male “journalists” can write articles without facts, so can female “journalists.” No double standards! /s
http://www.politickerwa.com/br…..m-reichert
So voters should not be worried about Reichert’s ProBush Agenda of more war, more of the same on the economy but they should be worried about Bloggers?
True but I don’t watch Fox News much less read their books I used to read the NY Times allot before I knew about Judy.
She Betrayed Me! I trusted her! I forgive Nothing!
However I would love to see her interview some vets back from Iraq who have read her stories that led us to this war.
I don’t think they will buy her excuses.
I read once that Amy Sullivan says she is a Democrat. She thinks Democrats need to be more open to people of religious faith. It’s just that her view of the bible is different from most Democrats/Progressives.
mreow!
I dissed Miller twice. I explained in a thread about a week ago, but didn’t save the links. One was summer 04 and the next was summer 05.
I also have gotten off a few zingers to William Broad.
But I’ve outgrown such antics. Looking for a more equal opponent to torment.
Feel Free to dump on Rush and the men though I find it entertaining when any right wing hack gets cut down.
Sorry, but those sorts are FAR below my standards.
Amen to that
The Bible says what on abortion? I assume that Women knew about herbs for abortion in Jesus’s time so if Jesus didn’t speak against it a strict reading of the bible would force me to conclude that its ok.
Sinking all the way to a 4 point lead 50-46 over Reichert according to a SurveyUSA poll out yesterday.
http://www.surveyusa.com/clien…..084fa17f20
The only biblical reference to in utero is some reference to life begins at quickening, which is something like 2nd trimester. This from very vague memory, so don’t hold me to it. Don’t even remember if it OT or NT.
Unfortunately, come Jan. 21, Amy Sullivan and her fellow clowns
(The Brothers Kagan. Everyone at The Atlantic excepct Ygelsias and Fallows.
Everyone at The New Republic. Everyone at Slate except Dahlia Lithwick.
Everyone at the Post except Tom Toles. Everyone at Newsweek.)
will still have their perches.
And nothing better to do than kvetch about how
Obama and Congress are not respecting them,
nor the”center-right” nation that they, and only they, understand.
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/bmcr/1993/04.04.08.html
First Google hit for the words Galen and Abortion (Galen was a famous Roman Doctor who wrote books)
CE Common Era I assume that means after Christ, Early Christians thought that the world was going to end soon and many didn’t marry for that reason.
I wonder if they performed abortions to avoid having children live through the End of Days?
could not help myself!
Hi Pups, Just got back from O hdq. Was calling off a list of people who had indicated a willingness to volunteer. What was amazing was how many Rs were on the list. Later Senator Salazar and former Gov. Roehmer dropped by to thank us.
O-mentum?
It would be irresponsible not to speculate whether Rahmbo’s fingerprints are on this one.
The New Testament doesn’t exist for Rethugs or fundies. To them it’s just the ramblings of a long haired radical socialist Jew and his minions. The Old Testament is where it’s at, baybee. All patriarchal control and violence.
Affirmative on that
So how did Obama learn the ground game? Senate race? Or observations learned when he was a community organizer?
Exodus 21:22-25 indicates that if someone attacks a woman and that the only harm is a miscarriage- there is no harm and no cash award.
That’s about it for the bible on the subject of abortion except for Leviticus 27: 3-7 in which there is no value given for the life of a child under the age of one month.
OT: Anyone see the story about the McCain worker who claims whe was attacked by an Obama supporter who carved a B on her face? Drudge (sorry to name that filthy place) has a pic up. The B is backwards as if done in the mirror. Hahahahaha.
http://www.drudgereport.com/
Digg it.
After the election Rahmbo needs to go to a corner of the House, curl up into the fetal position and stay there until we kick his ass out in 2010.
Ari has it at Oxdown
Two passages that will never pass the lips of a Rethug or fundie.
Oy, how people look for saviors who can walk on water. NYC Council undoes two voter referenda to let Bloomberg run for third term. Of course, he’ll win.
If voting made a difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/…..hird-term/
I give this a “BS” for Bogus Story.
A lot can happen in the next year.
Thanks.
IMO, no value to a particlar male at less than 28 years (he is currently 27). But YMMV.
And as for NYC, all of it will be bad, which favors Bloomberg.
Missed that. But look at the picture. The B is backwards. Like remember the talk show host, what was his name, who carved the swastika into his own face and claimed he was attacked by Nazis. The swastika was backwards because he did it in the mirror.
Yep. Ridiculous.
Most people, regardless of political orientation, tend to cherry-pick the parts of the Bible (both testaments) which appear to justify their prejudices.
You betcha.
Here’s a master’s thesis idea for a relion major. Instead of cherry picking biblical passages, simply count the number of violent passages in the OT, NT, Koran. Then draw conclusions about which religion is the least violent. Then hold the Christianists to the evidence.
Talmud isn’t that the old Testament?
relion=religion. Guess I was thinking about Roman times.
Big time Ding for you my dear.
And, well said.
My bold so abortion one month after birth is ok?
That sure sounds like anti-amerikan socialist commie pinko speak to me /s
It might be fun for awhile but wouldn’t sway any of them. In Genesis, the “forbidden fruit” was from the “tree of knowledge.” The subtext is, don’t ask questions, if Adam and Eve had kept their mouths shut, we’d still be in paradise.
Didn’t the Rev Sharpton get famous defending a woman who we found out later wrote stuff with a mirror on herself? McCain supporters copy the Rev Al’s tactics life is getting weird.
You noticed!
Genesis is profoundly mysogynist and antiintellectual. Has anyone noticed?
Scott Mclellan has endorsed Obama
Yeah
Not many. Maybe that can be attributed to 10,000 years of inbreeding.
How can that be the planet was created 6000 years ago> /s
Whoops, my bad, for some of us, all is (still) Chaos.
Genesis was stitched together relatively recently (Babylonian captivity) from bits and pieces by well educated people. None of them expected that some would come along who would take the stories as history or science.
There are some interesting ideas on this thread but the MainStreamMedia won’t ask any of the candidates about this.
The Mongols however had as court entertainment different religions try and explain why theirs was the true religion.
I think some Jesuits even went.
But apparently America has less intellectual free discussion than a Mongol Hoard.
http://books.google.com/books?…..#PPA462,M1
as matter of fact yes, I did
No. The Talmud is a collection of rabbinic writings and teachings. The OT is commonly referred to as the Jewish Bible, with the first 5 books being the Books of Moses, or the Torah.
McSFB.
“Make no mistake, he must be stopped.“
I’m wrong
Just got this in an email from DFA:
Yep, the powers that be are in a tizzy. We DFH’s are about to intrude on them and they are closing ranks.
Bwahahahaha.
But as I said in response to a few other Obama endorsements, better not.
That goes for all the Books of Moses and probably a lot more of the OT. They were afraid that their oral tradition would be lost in captivity or exile so they were written down for the first time.
Surprise, surprise.
Newsflash! Water allowed to run uphill!
And the Big Boys thought they owned and controlled all the pipes.
Poetic. Justice.
gooooooooo Darcy!!!!!!!!!!!
I know wwe haven’t had the election yet, the votes have not been counted
But last night I went to bed feeling so relieved that the wheels really were off the Straight Talk Express. And there were enough cracks in the McCainStreamMedia winddshield to feel comfortable we could now set off in a better direction.
When I went to Wellesley (’66), Bible was a required 2 semester course, sophomore year. 1st semester OT. I still have my bible from that course with marginalia colored for E, J, R and whoever. Talk about drab miniutia.
Do not become complacent. Until 5 Nov it’s full bore, all the time. These bastards are like a cornered animal and will become more vicious each day until the polls close. Even then they remain dangerous.
You are right, can’t relent — even AFTER the Inauguration.
Pro.
Jec.
Tion.
Them’s the bits and pieces all right. It has always struck me that the complers were not at all bashful about putting two contradictory creation stories side by side- never dreaming that someone would take them as history.
That’s why I picked the trailer at my 73. I see McSFB and the Rethugs as Dracul.
Details, details.
Though I find that kind of textual analysis incredibly tedious and boring, someone has to do it.
I have not found out if anyone has done same for Koran. If so, it’s probably a western analyst, as it is my understanding that the Koran is the direct word of Allah (forget that it wasn’t written until about 50-100 years after Mohammed, just like the NT vis-a-vis Christ) and textual analysis is probably regarded as sacriligous.
My hypothesis is that Mohammad heard the OT & NT stories on the ME trade routes that he traveled with his father, and added some unique things to make it a new religion. The bio I read of him (written by a French woman in the 1960s) said that M had monotheism envy, in the sense that he observed that the two major powers of his time: Eastern Roman empire & Persia, had a version of monotheism, and he did em one better.
I’ll hazard a guess on the identity of the “local Democratic consultant”. I was at a Fourth of July function this year and was standing backstage with a mixed crowd of Republican and Democratic public officials and local leaders. I observed well-known Democratic consultant Cathy Allen walk up to Dave Reichert in full kiass-ass mode and announce that she regretted that other members of her party did not support Dave like she did. I nearly threw up. She has a long history of this sort of thing.
He had clearly read both testaments and used them consciously.
My understanding is that Mohammed was illiterate and that his visions of allah were dictated to a scribe. Additionally, written copies of both testaments were rare and written either in Greek or Aramaic.
That applies to the NT. The OT was in Hebrew.
It gets tiresome, doesn’t it, having the media see the Netroots as some sort of hidden bogeyman, like the Communists under the bed in the febrile imagination of Joe McCarthy. The netroots are all about sharing, open talk and connectedness – not conspiracy!