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	<title>Comments on: Biden&#8217;s VAWA-Created Domestic Violence Hotline Receives 2 Millionth Call</title>
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		<title>By: JoyB</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/10/21/bidens-vawa-created-domestic-violence-hotline-receives-2-millionth-call/#comment-15972</link>
		<dc:creator>JoyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;(((((leolabeth))))))  That is infuriating.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(((((leolabeth))))))  That is infuriating.</p>
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		<title>By: leolabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>leolabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sadly, for my now seven year-old son, some family courts are in a state of backlash. I don’t know if the Fathers’ Rights guys have gotten traction or what.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All I can tell you is I came away from my protection order, divorce and custody hearings wishing I’d waited for my then-husband to hit me, hard. He had only strangled me and thrown me out in the February snow–neither of which required a doctor’s care or left a mark.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I, perhaps stupidly, certainly pridefully, sought out an attorney rather than going to the local shelter and using their advocacy system. I had money of my own and didn’t feel right using space and expertise that others less fortunate needed. This attorney negotiated with my husband’s attorney and made the protection order go away–before I learned I could have extended it for up to two years. This only emboldened my husband who began his reign of terror again. When I applied for another PFA, this time the Guardian ad Litem intervened, promising to get my ex-husband into a batterers’ intervention program, and again making the PFA go away. He never went to the BIP and that Guardian had to resign before being removed for bias.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Later, the court dinged me for bringing frivolous PFAs by stripping me, a teacher for a dozen years, of any say in my son’s education. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How could this happen? She must really be crazy, you’re saying, for this to have happened. Well, yes and no. Of course I’m crazed that my ex-husband’s family lied on the stand and our son is paying the price. Lied and lied and lied. Oh yeah, and made shit up, too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As my attorney–now a superior court judge–said, “There’s not much you can do when people hijack the system and lie.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, for my now seven year-old son, some family courts are in a state of backlash. I don’t know if the Fathers’ Rights guys have gotten traction or what.</p>
<p>All I can tell you is I came away from my protection order, divorce and custody hearings wishing I’d waited for my then-husband to hit me, hard. He had only strangled me and thrown me out in the February snow–neither of which required a doctor’s care or left a mark.</p>
<p>I, perhaps stupidly, certainly pridefully, sought out an attorney rather than going to the local shelter and using their advocacy system. I had money of my own and didn’t feel right using space and expertise that others less fortunate needed. This attorney negotiated with my husband’s attorney and made the protection order go away–before I learned I could have extended it for up to two years. This only emboldened my husband who began his reign of terror again. When I applied for another PFA, this time the Guardian ad Litem intervened, promising to get my ex-husband into a batterers’ intervention program, and again making the PFA go away. He never went to the BIP and that Guardian had to resign before being removed for bias.</p>
<p>Later, the court dinged me for bringing frivolous PFAs by stripping me, a teacher for a dozen years, of any say in my son’s education. </p>
<p>How could this happen? She must really be crazy, you’re saying, for this to have happened. Well, yes and no. Of course I’m crazed that my ex-husband’s family lied on the stand and our son is paying the price. Lied and lied and lied. Oh yeah, and made shit up, too.</p>
<p>As my attorney–now a superior court judge–said, “There’s not much you can do when people hijack the system and lie.”</p>
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		<title>By: Christy Hardin Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christy Hardin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One of the most frustrating aspects of domestic violence cases is that the conduct which leads to a criminal charge is most often witnessed solely by the abuser and the person being abused, and sometimes young children.  Trying to get testimony from someone who is terrified of retribution can be really, really tough — and makes medical exams and additional evidence gathering by police officers all the more important on the scene.  Also, if you have a situation where you have two people who have a long history of calling the cops on each other, accusing each other of abuse and this, that, or the other thing — over a history of various partners all doing the same thing (yes, it happens, ad nauseum) — then it can be infinitely more difficult to sort out fact from fiction in charges and trying to figure out what is appropriate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Where you have a victim who refuses to testify and she’s your main evidence of misconduct, sometimes the best you can do is to secure a plea on a lesser charge so that the next time the abuser comes in, you have a means to lean on him for something more the next go round.  Plus, it limits access to firearms and at least gets them into some counseling on some level.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It really sucks, but sometimes it can be all you can do when you have an uncooperative victim.  And that happens way too frequently.  SIGH&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the most frustrating aspects of domestic violence cases is that the conduct which leads to a criminal charge is most often witnessed solely by the abuser and the person being abused, and sometimes young children.  Trying to get testimony from someone who is terrified of retribution can be really, really tough — and makes medical exams and additional evidence gathering by police officers all the more important on the scene.  Also, if you have a situation where you have two people who have a long history of calling the cops on each other, accusing each other of abuse and this, that, or the other thing — over a history of various partners all doing the same thing (yes, it happens, ad nauseum) — then it can be infinitely more difficult to sort out fact from fiction in charges and trying to figure out what is appropriate.</p>
<p>Where you have a victim who refuses to testify and she’s your main evidence of misconduct, sometimes the best you can do is to secure a plea on a lesser charge so that the next time the abuser comes in, you have a means to lean on him for something more the next go round.  Plus, it limits access to firearms and at least gets them into some counseling on some level.</p>
<p>It really sucks, but sometimes it can be all you can do when you have an uncooperative victim.  And that happens way too frequently.  SIGH</p>
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		<title>By: kdh22</title>
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		<dc:creator>kdh22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;She’s gonna have her witch doctor put a spell on whomever it was. She’s all about the revenge. I offer Troopergate as evidence.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She’s gonna have her witch doctor put a spell on whomever it was. She’s all about the revenge. I offer Troopergate as evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: wwroda</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/10/21/bidens-vawa-created-domestic-violence-hotline-receives-2-millionth-call/#comment-15876</link>
		<dc:creator>wwroda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I worked with VAWA first hand with homeless, immigrant populations with Albuquerque Health Care for the Homeless - It was a fucking godsend (can you say fuck and god in the same sentence?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked with VAWA first hand with homeless, immigrant populations with Albuquerque Health Care for the Homeless &#8211; It was a fucking godsend (can you say fuck and god in the same sentence?</p>
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		<title>By: dosido</title>
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		<dc:creator>dosido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Palin not qualified” is now a bigger concern than “continuing Bush policies” ahahahaahahah!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Palin not qualified” is now a bigger concern than “continuing Bush policies” ahahahaahahah!!!</p>
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		<title>By: dosido</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/10/21/bidens-vawa-created-domestic-violence-hotline-receives-2-millionth-call/#comment-15874</link>
		<dc:creator>dosido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I only saw the “preview” where she was smacking around the reporter about a question about qualifications.  “Who wrote that?  Who wrote that question? I need to speak to them.” acting all tough.  The reporter said, “National Review…”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only saw the “preview” where she was smacking around the reporter about a question about qualifications.  “Who wrote that?  Who wrote that question? I need to speak to them.” acting all tough.  The reporter said, “National Review…”</p>
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		<title>By: virgotex</title>
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		<dc:creator>virgotex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I work part time as an advocate at NDVH.  The second part of your comment is the answer. They had someone to call. And this is a huge milestone.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another thing about VAWA is that it provides a way for immigrant victims of DV to get their permanent residency independent of their abuser, who often is already a permanent resident and is using the threat of deportation as a means of control.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work part time as an advocate at NDVH.  The second part of your comment is the answer. They had someone to call. And this is a huge milestone.</p>
<p>Another thing about VAWA is that it provides a way for immigrant victims of DV to get their permanent residency independent of their abuser, who often is already a permanent resident and is using the threat of deportation as a means of control.</p>
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		<title>By: kdh22</title>
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		<dc:creator>kdh22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, she’s toast too just like McCrazy. She’s just too stupid to see it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, she’s toast too just like McCrazy. She’s just too stupid to see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Badwater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Badwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;She is delusional if she thinks that a major Republic loss won’t be tied to her.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She is delusional if she thinks that a major Republic loss won’t be tied to her.</p>
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