Gail Collins on the McCain campaign’s Hail Joe play
With less than three weeks to go, saddled with an unpopular ideology and an unattractive candidate, the McCain campaign’s deep thinkers decided the only possible hope was …Joe the Plumber! Joe is, of course, the conservative guy from northwestern Ohio who told Obama: “Your new tax plan is going to tax me more” because he planned to buy a business that he hoped would reel in more than $250,000 a year in profits.
The proper answer, as Obama should have known, was: “No, it won’t.”
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Joe the Plumber, it turns out, is actually named Samuel and is not a licensed plumber. He has a lien on his house for unpaid taxes. While his professional life is still a little hazy, there is not much evidence he’s ever going to become a small business owner. And he would be a beneficiary of the Barack Obama tax plan.
So Joe’s business is him and some other guy who actually has training and a license. They make $120k/yr, of which Joe makes $40k. Despite this less-than-stellar evidence of motivation, Joe wants to buy the business, which essentially means the business would be him and no other guy. The only way Joe can work legally is with the other guy (assuming that’s actually true, and the locals seem to feel it’s not), so the value of the business without the other guy is, for all intents and purposes, nothing.
But in case his worthless business should ever illegally make over a quarter of a million dollars, Obama is going to tax him an extra $900, which would eat away at all the tax breaks he’d gotten up to that point. Those of them which weren’t eaten up by unpaid taxes.
That about it?
Bonus McCain campaign-on-Joe action, now with extra Joe:
In Miami, Lieberman told a rally that McCain would “fight for José el plomero!”
That’s Algohombre, to you, or as he’s known to his compinches back in Darien, José el Senador.





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Wow, they bet the farm on him when McCain invoked him repeatedly and they vetted him about as well as they did Palin.
It’s even more of a clown car than the Bushies.
Granted Joe is a grandstanding blowhard and a troll, the campaign had to know exactly what they were letting him in for. I can’t think he realized when he decided to pretend to be an independent with a question that he was going to have his unfortunate life choices dissected quite this way.
McBush figures that any day that is spent on something other than the economic meltdown is a victory- and he may be right- he’s up in the polling today after a couple of days of plumber stories….
McBush has millions of “average Joes” looking for an excuse to vote for him–no news is good news as far as they are concerned.
You think? Keep in mind that this is his post-debate bounce, and the more he tries to keep Joe going the more people are going to write about Joe’s circumstances.
I don’t think his “I don’t want a tax cut” stance now that he’s busted is going to play too well with people who are hurting right now.
Is it too much to hope for a little more help faster from MSM on exposing Joke the Plumber than we had on the Palinoscopy?
This is the time that polls bounce around like a rubber ball. Don’t anyone panic.
Hard to see why the guy who lost the debate would get a post-debate bounce. I really don’t know why he’s up- maybe the Ayer’s terrorism crap is actually starting to work.
Has anyone yet pinned down the exact relationship between Sammy Joe and Keating’s Son-in-law Robert?
Lieberman is the perfect driver for that clown car.
Shorter: McCain campaign continues to stump from the septic tank.
Flush Republican liars in ‘08! Yes, you can.
There was a lot of spin after the debate which had him winning – granted the actual voters disagreed, a fair number of pundits called it for him. Maybe that slowed down a few rats on their way overboard…
Blue America up over at the Mothership with some Ohio races.
Joe the Plumber is probably going to have a lot less business now that people know that he isn’t licensed and is a tax cheat. He may just go bankrupt.
Nancy Potent BS Appearing on CNN? a few minutes ago has decided that there are actually 51 states. This comes about by dividing Virginia into two states Virginia which is DC suburbs and the Real Virginia.
I suspect there’s some wingnut welfare in the future for Joe. I don’t think anyone on the McCain team wants him to need to sell his story.
One explanation for the surgelet for McBush is goopers comin home. Some may have become undecided during the economic meltdown but now agree with Mickey “Aw shucks Pluto- (John) I just can’t stay mad at ya”
Saw ol Lou Dobbs (by accident) the other day- he’s fuckin frothin at the mouth about brown people and willing to lie about anything to further the McCain campaign…..he used to be an equal opportunity idiot. What changed?
The politics of sociopathology. Even Letterman calling McCain out and he blandly looks him and America in the eye and denies he and Palin are inciting racism. And throws the ritualistic Rovian hissy fit of defensiveness which is crazymakingly since he is underscoring the very stuff HE not Obama is perpetrating and demanding Obama apologize. Rachel used the “s” (”like a sociopath”) word about Palin when Palin asserted the Alaskan report gave her a CLEAN exoneration from abuse of power.
Where did I read lately, “loyalty is not a replacement for character.” In moderation it can be a moral choice. But it seems like loyalty to religion, to party, to celebrity candidate, to whatever work or family community you are in, to generous lobbyists, to tv stations, to sports teams, etc. … is replacing individual thought and morality. Group think truly STINKS in America.
Joe
Sixthe Plumber is not even named Joe. Sigh.Bitch “the real Virginia” doesn’t have any electoral votes, hein?
I really don’t think they can count on the number of people they need to vote their prejudices over their pocketbooks and their kids’ futures, particularly with all the economic villains they have to explain away.
well, no. But “Sammy the Plumber” sounds sorta, you know, ethnic.
like Paulie the Plumber?
Sounds like one of the Sopranos guys. Do you believe McCain is indignant how everyone is bothering Joe/Sammy now? McCain should produce reality shows after he is defeated! He has the gift.
And though Letterman was masterful pressing McCain about himself and Palin, I suspect McCain helped himself with one more “shucks.. I screwed up…” apology to Dave and everyone admires how strong he is to cop to stuff in that macho cute way, without breaking a sweat. AGGGHHHHHHH! And Gordon Liddy has paid his dues and McCain is proud of that “pal around”, but get the pitchforks after Ayers whom Obama doesn’t even pal around with, but is doing good works!
The genius of it all is … Ayers gets no credit for his good works. And when Obama denies being Muslim and running for President … he subtley invalidates Muslims … who are NOT equal to being terrorists by being Muslim … and it would be okay if Obama were but he is NOT! But the fear-mongering works using Obama’s denials, even. It gets all so “tails you lose, heads I win” when you are dealing with bottom feeding scum suckers. Corporate media considers it all gamesmanship. Morality/Integrity blind commentary. Those declaring they are wielding morality (Christian right authoritarians) are the most amoral/immoral of all!
I dunno. I live in Queens. I’m constantly amazed by what people who don’t live in Queens process as “ethnic”
I’m far and away the most “ethnic” person connected to my husband’s midwestern family by virtue of my grandparents spending twenty or so years in northern italy before they came over to die of old age here.
A few months ago, he said on his CNN show that he won’t rule out running for president. He says he is an Independent…I think he sounds suspiciously like a Republican.
Someone has to call McCain and the Republicans on the talk of redistribution of wealth that the Joe thing got them started on. Even their supporters should be able to see that they redistributed our wealth to Iraq, Afghanistan, and every large bank corporation, and every stock brokerage. They by their policies have us still sending 700 billion to other for oil. Us and our children are mortgaged to about forty thousand in debt. They took our money and gave it to other Countries. Even if Obama wanted to spead it around at least it would be for our people and our Country.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3nmVKghL-c