So…ONE interview in two weeks. No wonder the McCain camp is “hiding” her. This is unacceptable. Demand Palin speak to diverse media outlets.

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Lindsay, You don’t understand, Palin is a breath of polluted air..whoops meant fresh..

Is “Deer in the headlights” sexist?

One would have hoped that all those Bush Advisorsschoolin’ “Ms. Pit Bull 2008″ would have indicated what the Bush Doctrine actually WAS. That was the whole structuring rationale for the mess of the last 8 years, after all.

No…sorry Sarah…it wasnt “we are in a Crusade”, or “manifest destiny”.

Sarah, go back and read the Cliff Notes again!

Is “Deer in the headlights” sexist?

Please, “Caribou in the headlights!”

“Is ‘deer in the headlights’ sexist?” Not unless bucks have some magical headlight resistance that I don’t know about. But how would I know? I don’t dive much and I live in Brooklyn. Sarah Palin probably doesn’t think people like me should even be citizens.

No, but “Dear, in the headlights” would be.

I needed to get this post up from the previous thread:

One question that really just stays with me here about troopergate. The Palin sister has kids (at least one) right? How in a divorce is removing the father’s source of income going to be good for those kids? When I think this through I get the impression that Palin was just smoking with contempt for the ex-husnad to be and was not concerned for the best interests of her sister’s kid. Am I off-base on this?

No deer in the headlights is not sexist, but if you had said listick on a deer in the headlights then in some circles that would have been sexist.

Good point, PL. While we’re on the subject, isn’t it sexist to assume that anyone referring to a lipsticked deer in headlights must be talking about a female deer? Sure sounds sexist to me–not to mention hetero-normative and transphobic. But then again, I’m just an atheist dwelling in sin in the big city. What do I know about American values?

She’s good, though. Note how when Charlie “Don’t Tax My Capital Gains” Gibson asks her about the Bush Doctrine — which she clearly knows nothing about [is is some obscure set of t-ball rules?], — after that momentary, blank, beauty pagent look, she comes back with “which part of it, Charlie,” hoping to draw him in to an explanation she can rif off of.

Much as I hate Gibson, I have to give him minor props for not getting sucked in to this initial trap. But contrast this with how challenging, nasty & insulting he was to Obama in the Dem candidates’ debate he “moderated.”

Please, Dead Caribou in the headlights.

But there’s more of this extended Infomercial to go.

Not good here or elsewhere.

Signed with my name, rank, military service, and retired status. Just as I did with my email to Charlie Gibson. I was stationed in Berlin during the LaBelle Disco bombing and know that what a president says can make the difference between life and death. Sarah Palin scares the sh*t out of me, but so does McCain.

I saw the new campaign add from the McCain camp this morning in which they accused Barrack Obama of calling Sarah Palin a liar. Well, in point of fact, she is a liar but Obama has never said that, much to my chagrin. It was during the Olbermann interview the other day that I found myself doing a Sam Kinnison, “Say it! Say it! Say the word…she’s a liar!”

Obama did not say it and, at the time, I felt nonplussed and somewhat annoyed by his cool demeanor.

I see now, he was wiser than I and did not stoop to pointing out the obvious, thereby giving inroad to that non sequitur argument when Obama’s intent is to focus on real issues.

She’s a moose in the headlights.

-G

I saw that too on WJ, did you see it on teeVee?

sorry air occupies her frontal cortex…as in AIRHEAD

It was on the MSNBC. I almost missed it because “teh Scareburough” was assaulting my senses when I turned on the TV (Watching Rachel when I turned it off last night). It then degenerated into teh Scare talking over Andrea Mitchell as she was saying how misleading the add was. Funny, he let the Peggy Noonan say some tripe. I left, but my wife tells me that teh Scar and Mikka got around to at least admitting that the McCain add about teaching sex to Kindergardeners was disgusting.

This is a great opening for the Obama campaign to call them on that nonsense:

Obama never used the L-word, but this ad raises the question of whether the L-word would have been appropriate, so let’s review what Sarah Palin actually said …

What an opportunity!

It’s all Obama’s fault for backing out on the town meetings.

I have noticed that there is some fact checking in the media, ABC, NPR, don’t know where else it is happening. ABC fact checked her this morning on the Gibson interview. Found her 2 x false to 1 x true, on the quotes they highlighted.

But the public seems to critique only the Dems and totally believes the R spew.

I don’t get it.

Okay that Charles Gibson–or is it Charlie(?)– video was almost funny, a little painful, a little scary. Love the way she tries to insinuate a kind of collegial attitude by punctuating every other sentence with “Charlie.” Then there was a kind of wink in the beginning ’bout protecting the Heimatland, and glibness which gave way to a sort of hysteria in her voice.

Yeah, I see that and I agree. But I also agree with something Chris Kofinis said the other night, “Sometimes it is better to lose a news cycle,” and let the narrative move on to something else.

My personal feeling is to hit back, hit hard, take no prisoners and ask questions latter. I’d be a shitty president, by the way.

The wiser course of action is probably to let Sarah Palin’s shooting star fizzle without much more ado. That rankles my sensibilities.

I’m glad I’m not David Axlerod, but I trust that he is smarter than I am on these issues. I hope so at least.

This election is too important and I would not want to see the Democratic party lose the opportunity to take the Whitehouse because their candidate was too prideful to get down in the sty and sling mud with the pigs. But would I want a candidate that compromised his own values in order to do that. Somewhere there is a golden mean, and I am very happy not to be charged with finding it. John Kerry never did, and he is a smart man, too.

Doesn’t the Bush Doctrine in Alaska mean “What happens in the bush stays in the bush”?

If she were truly mavericky, should would’ve characterized the Bush Doctrine, without reservation, as a load of old wank.

Sorry the wink came when she talked of “new leadership and that’s the beauty of this country.” *wink*
Totally pathetic. And I don’t use that word often.

We have the Bush Doctrine. It’s time to introduce the Palin Doctrine. It’s very simple.

1) Mock the qualified candidates in the opposing party to hide the fact that you are utterly unqualified for the position you seek.
2) Treat people with vast amounts of experience and “big, fat” resumes with undisguised contempt.
3) Pretend that ignorance is a virtue.
4) Hide your stupidity beneath a veil of Bible piety.
5) Never doubt that Americans, who will spend 9 years in 65 glued to the t.v., will fall for your bullshit.

Guess what. You can go very far in America by applying the Palin Doctrine.

P.S. The Palin Doctrine is not new. It’s the Rove Doctrine smeared in lipstick.

But she’s fine with preemptive strikes, all options on the table, all unedr the guise of “building new partnerships with foreign leaders.”

Doesn’t the Bush Doctrine in Alaska mean “What happens in the bush stays in the bush”?

I thought it was “What gets shot in the bush turns into the burger on your plate.”

Don’t know about #5. Gibson came across like a teacher trying to wrestle answers out of a glib frat/sorority boy/girl.

Priceless!

P.S. The Palin Doctrine is not new. It’s the Rove Doctrine smeared in lipstick

You know what the difference between the Rove Doctrine and the Palin Doctrin is?

(of course, there again, even that comparison offers her too much legitimacy)

Thank you.

Thank you for watching Governor Palin, so I didn’t have to.

Pressed about what insights into recent Russian actions she gained by living in Alaska, Palin answered: “They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.”

Well gee, I live in CT and Long Island is across the sound. You can actually see it on the beach. I suppose that gives me some kind of insight. Really, I consider myself an expert on Long Island, because on a clear day, there it is right in front of me while I’m on the beach.

the editing of Gibson’s interview was a bit obvious, too.

Really, I consider myself an expert on Long Island, because on a clear day, there it is right in front of me while I’m on the beach.

I see a whole new avenue of biblical exploration available for Sarah’s next bible thumpin’ meetin’.

Moses was, in fact, an expert on the promise land because he got to stand on the banks of the river Jordan and look across at it.

My personal feeling is to hit back, hit hard, take no prisoners and ask questions latter. I’d be a shitty president, by the way.

The wiser course of action is probably to let Sarah Palin’s shooting star fizzle without much more ado. That rankles my sensibilities.

There’s an old saying in politics that when your opponent is self-destructing, stay out of the picture, i.e., don’t give them a shove. Right now, Sarah is self-destructing thanks to heightened alertness of the MSM.

BTW, I thought I’d never see the day when the MSM would jump on a Republican without trying to “balance” things via an equal criticism of the some Democrat. I credit the blogosphere plus Olbermann for that miracle.

We’re getting to “that point” in the relationship. You know the point. You met in the bar, there was chemistry, you woke up together. Next night you get together, and it’s still good. But then you plan a weekend together. You get to talking. And somewhere in there things get a little hinky. Somewhere during the conversation it crosses your mind… “Oh my god, this person is NUTS.”

America will shortly text Sarah Palin and tell her that we’re just not that into her.

And you know how badly THAT plays out.

btw, CSPAN 3 is showing an Senate energy summit

All 100 U.S. Senators are invited to today’s Energy Summit, sponsored by the Energy & Natural Resources Cmte. The Summit — an effort to spur legislation — was proposed by the bipartisan “Gang of 16,” a group of Senators who are offering an energy compromise plan.

Actually I should extend Palin’s logic further. I know all about NY state, because I can see Long Island from the beach in CT. In fact I know everything that goes in Albany and NYC politics (not). I divine it (not) just by sitting on the beach.

I didn’t see the original interview. She did have an answer for that question, and as simple and uninformed as it may have been, I would have liked to have heard it. Instead there was this “photoshopped” piece of crap.

As bad and as terrifying as it sounds, you people had better start taking this woman seriously. You may be looking at the next president of the United States.

and i am totally experienced and an EXPERT on Cuba ,cause i visited SLOPPY JOES bar in KEY WEST.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahaha
keep em coming McDoooooooooooooofus

Here’s the Palin Doctrine

http://www.pabloonpolitics.com/palin_doctrine.htm

I am more inclined to spit three times and restate it as “Sarah Palin will never, ever be our president.”

I have some women friends who are very angry, boiling over pissed off. They feel insulted at the idea that they would vote for a woman simply because she is a woman, as if issues don’t matter. They think they are being condescended to.

Sure, you divined everything you needed to know at Sloppy Joes, just like Sarah Palin did when she sat on that island facing Russia.

McCain’s new ad “Disrespectful”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b0pSXmT10I

is Disrespectful the new uppity ???

Mornin’ All

Last night, both Palin and McCain seemed amazingly incoherent. Their sentences were grammatically correct most of the time, but often made no sense. They seemed to be a sequence of nonsequiturs. For example, McCain’s comment that ultimately blamed Palin’s derision of community organizers on Obama’s refusal to participate in town meetings. That’s fucking insanity, but nobody really call hiim on that insanity, not even Rachel, who did an excellent critique of his performance.

Kinda think lipstick wearin’ pig inna headlites.

Sarah Palin doesn’t need experience. She has the Bible. Can we please not elect this person to the second highest office in the land?

Boston Globe (Sept. 11):

[Rick] Warren said that Palin then “asked me to send her some bible verses on how do you deal with the unfair, unjust attacks and the mean-spirited criticism that comes in.”

http://www.boston.com/news/pol…..s_pal.html

New York Times (Sept. 4):

WASILLA, Alaska — Shortly after taking office as governor in 2006, Sarah Palin sent an e-mail message to Paul E. Riley, her former pastor in the Assembly of God Church, which her family began attending when she was a youth. She needed spiritual advice in how to do her new job, said Mr. Riley, who is 78 and retired from the church.

“She asked for a biblical example of people who were great leaders and what was the secret of their leadership,” Mr. Riley said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09…..ref=slogin

1,762 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…

Citizen mack and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:

“Is ‘deer in the headlights’ sexist?”

No but “pig with lipstick” would be more appropriate.

KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, FEAR IS JEST A WORD!!

Read George Lakoff if you don’t get it. You expect people to use “reason” as the basis of why they support a particular candidate. Research indicates they don’t. Read George Lakoff. Obama and his advisors certainly need to.

Republican Political Calculus: The Fundamentals

Why Lies Work

All humans have one or more emotional access points (EAP) into their minds

These access points bypass the normal logical reasoning processes which keep the individual grounded and functioning in a world filled with real objects

By accessing the voters mind at their strongest and most vulnerable EAP, factual logic will be bypassed and a particular (mis-)perception may be implanted permanently into the human’s mind.

When the first lie of a campaign is made, those voters who are repulsed by outright lies will recoil and have a negative response to the lie, either by “reluctantly” changing who will receive their vote, or by withdrawing from the voting process altogether.

But that first lie will have permanently been implanted into a certain number of newly converted voters (newly viscerally connected to the teller of the lie).

When the second lie is disseminated, another group, based on a different EAP will become new “followers” of the source of the lie. But this time, the number of voters who withdraw or who “reluctantly” change is minimal. So the second lie is far more efficient than the first.

(There probably exists an analysis of the best sequence of these lies – to encompass the most available targets, based on the current configuration of American culture and belief systems.)

The third lie snares yet another community of EAP voters for election day, and so on.

So while seeming counter-intuitive, the more lies a candidate tells, the greater the number of EAP votes accrue to the Liar Purveyors.

Those opponents who react to the lies by using facts are fighting the wrong “war”.

The opponent must reach voters through their EAP, and try to replace or at least co-plant their emotional stake in the mind of the perceiver. However, a negative implant is far more powerful presence in the human mind, than is a warm-fuzzy implant.

Does anyone know of a new poll that shows McCain leading in electoral votes?

OT, but Foreign Policy anyway

What is going on in Bolivia? Is the US CIA fomenting another revolt against a populist, left-wing President?
I see that oil and gas is at issue. And Venezuela is right next door, hosting some Russian planes and ships.

BushCo, not content with a complete clusterfuck in the middle east is now trying to open a new war on the American economy terra down south?

Yep, good times to throw around nukulur threats!

I’m no biblical scholar, but it is my understanding that all the big leaders in the bibles, were, um, told by God what they were to do.
If she asks her pastor for bible verses, she must not have been paying very much attention during Sunday School.
And, I’m not really kidding.

…the evil that lurks in the hearts of Republican men.

1,763 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…

Citizen Beyerstein and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:

Where the hell is Mrs. Clinton…if she stands up and smacks Palin down HARD it’s open season on this bimbo! And yes I used the word “bimbo”…’cuz she’s NOT smart and she’s usin’ her gender and her looks ta get a job!

Get Mrs. Clinton out there for the weekend…that will be the end of Sarah Palin as a candidate!

KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITON, YA DON’T FEAR FASCISM YOU DESTROY IT!!

Charlie Rose had Jonathan Alter, Bob Schieffer, Paul Begala discussing the Presidential race. Even they were sniffing a little at McCain’s tactics. Still they seemed completely oblivious to McCain’s senility or Palin’s extremism. For them, it’s just another day in the Beltway collecting the paycheck and spouting the Conventional Wisdom.

Clearly Sarah’s studied international diplomacy with experts.

new Jane upstairs here
McCain “Deeply Ashamed Of What He Did To His First Wife

You don’t get what I’m saying. Like it or not, this woman could very well be the next president. Obama has the right idea. They are not attacking her directly, or calling her bs. I bet they’re taking her seriously.

They are letting her self-destruct all on her own, without resorting to editing tricks in a video, or taking what she says out of context. You know she’s out of her depth. I know she’s out of her depth. But there are many people out there who are information-free who don’t see that. Those are the ones who will vote for these idiots for all the wrong reasons.

You may very well wake up one of these mornings and discover that McCain et. al. has in fact “won” this election. Whether it’s by Rove’s tactics, or subterfuge, or mis-information , or whatever. This is very real – not Disneyland

Does anyone know of a new poll that shows McCain leading in electoral votes?

This was discussed last night on MSNBC (Rachel Maddow and Chuck Todd?), and it was the conclusion of that discussion that were the vote held today, there’s a good chance that Obama would win the electoral vote but not the popular vote.

But fivethirtyeight.com now has McCain winning both.

abso effing lutely not.

Go Here, scroll down (bout halfway) to “Maps and Info”

representative of what I’ve been tracking – one or two votes sway in the last 10 days – not the 25+ points swing McLiar would need

You don’t have to tell me this isn’t Disneyland.

She’s been tutored daily to bring her up to speed, yet she flubbed a Foreign Relations 101 question. Kinda makes you wonder how ignorant she was two weeks ago.

I thought that little bit of education was really mean-spirited. Anyone here who is paying attention knows you’re a smart cookie. Somebody must be seriously cranky this morning to say that to you.
Hey, Karnak, do you kick your dog too?

Also the McCain team forgot to tell Palin what her OWN statements had been about global warming. Now she thinks that humans ARE involved…before she not only didn’t think that humans helped increase Global Warming…but that the melting of the Arctic ice caps, the collapse of the permafrost, and major retreats in the glaciers weren’t even happening!

How appropriate

It’s okay girlfriend. I was oblique in my reference to a Chinese superstition. We expect people to get cranked up I guess and thass Okay.

Most animals, domesticated and otherwise, are peaceful creatures. They have their territorial issues and other things that are a result of the way they are wired. Human beings on the other hand, have this unfortunate proclivity to ignore reality when it’s staring them in the face, and will blunder on down the road oblivious to the changes that are taking place around them. Mostly because it doesn’t fit in with their world view.

I don’t hunt. I try not to mistreat other creatures knowingly, and I do own guns. The guns are not for poor defenseless furry creatures.

Human beings on the other hand, have this unfortunate proclivity to ignore reality when it’s staring them in the face, and will blunder on down the road oblivious to the changes that are taking place around them. Mostly because it doesn’t fit in with their world view.

And being human beings, many of us have different reactions to “reality.”

Yeah, the reality thing. That’s always been a problem.

It still seems to me that there was some Goofy Projection underlying the comment.
But, it’s nice to know that there are people who have a clear vision and can put up some reality signs along the road to oblivion.

If you see any of those, let me know. All I meant was people like McCain & Co frighten me. Hiding what Palin says by making light of it or changing what she (and they ) really think is a mistake. I think the truth behind where they are at is scarier, and needs to be brought into the light.

This one

They scare me too. It’s a good bet that the huge majority of commenters here understand the gravity of the situation. There is a great deal of anxiety and sometimes a light comment is needed as a pressure release. Also the occasional mean-spirited comment can do the same, but sometimes with a negative effect.
I apologize for characterising your comment that way, tho.

Ok, here is the THE PROBLEM and maybe the only real problem of real consequence. The majority of the average American public is lazy, resulting in a very poor knowledge base to make good voting decisions (a small block of voters are right/left no matter what, but I don’t think this is a large group). And this will not be resolved between now and the elections.

So I am starting to say the hell with it. Let McCain/Palin have the White House and all the problems with it. Because if we win, and when we don’t solve all the messes we are in (which we won’t), we the Dems will be blamed and the Repubs will come to the rescue in 2012. So let them have it, and let the Republican/conservatives be buried forever when they are blamed for the problems AND inability to solve it (economy, heath, etc). And also maybe, just maybe, the public will be more engaged in learning about the world, rather than just their backyard BBQ.

Dems in Congress can play the repub game, and refuse to support any non-progressive issues (SCOTUS, , funding for wars, etc) and slow or stop any severe damage. But we have to wake up the pubic, and the only they will pay attention, is when they get hurt. And the media can not play the dem blame game for 4 years with the competition from the blogs, etc putting out the real facts.

So let them have it. And maybe we really can turn this country around.

Food for thought. AngryB

no fault – no blame

Hiding what Palin says by making light of it or changing what she (and they ) really think is a mistake.

Right on. There are people who will start laughing when they are in anxiety mode. There are people who don’t understand why they are laughing or who get mad. That’s the way it is. BTW. Someone once said that ridicule is a potent political tool. Nickname often tend to stick in a way that earnest talk doesn’t.

I noted on another board is how condescending and aggressive she is. I actually think the one on one format works against her bringing out her control freak nature.

BTW I would not have mentioned lipstick if I were her. Her lips are not her best feature. meow.

I knew everything I would read today about last night’s interview would bring a smile to my face. Nice one.

I do (unfortunately). Baracknophobia.

“Palin didn’t know the Bush Doctrine” is the lead headline on Huff Po, but below it also lists Palin’s saber rattling about the Russia/Georgia conflict. This ought to be at he top. Can you imagine this person (Palin) up against Putin? The Dems, or any progressive 527s that get put together, have a huge opening here, and it’s to revisit an ad paralleling the one that was used in 1964 to shred Barry Goldwater: a pastoral scene of child playing, surrounded by flowers, and then a cutaway to a mushroom cloud. Thing is, it’s not like the Obama “sex education” lie and distortion, it’s potentially true. Let the people be reminded of the cold war and all of its fear and nervousness.

Game over, if played right, and it’s not a lie…

Anyone counted the current Russian nuclear arsenal lately?

wasn’t she given the questions before the interview?

She wasn’t given the questions, but she should have been given the answers based on presumed questions. Even I knew she’d get a questions about Georgia!