Comments on: America Last? Sarah Palin Once A Member of the Alaskan Independence Party

By: lokywoky

lokywoky — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:19:29 +0000

The founder of the AIP was a rabid anti-US person. He said he was “not an American, he was an Alaskan” and he gave orders that he was not to be buried under the American flag – and he is actually buried 4 feet over the Canadian border, along with is wife. The AIP is definitely a sucessionist party – they cloak it well and they also kick out people who don’t agree with them on this issue.

By: lokywoky

lokywoky — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:16:22 +0000

There is a difference between the successionist movements in Hawaii and Alaska as I see it.

Hawaii was a sovereign nation with a sitting Queen when the US unilaterally staged a “coup” of sorts and removed her from the throne and annexed the islands in complete and total opposition to the native peoples. They were not given any choice in the matter. The succession movement in Hawaii is mostly Native Islanders – many with blood ties to the Queen.

Alaska also has several indigenous ’sovereign nations’ in the Inuit peoples. The US purchased Alaska (a fraudulent deal if there ever was one). When the vote was taken whether to become a state of the US or not – the voters who got to decide were white for the most part. The succession movement in Alaska is mostly whites – their issues are anger at the federal government because of all the Wilderness and Federally owned and controlled lands and a desire to be free from all federal taxes and regulations. Their platform wants to open all land in Alaska to private ownership and exploitation. As I said before – this is a “white” issue – it is not being driven by the native peoples there.

By: DrZen

DrZen — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 07:40:31 +0000

It’s basically a states’ rights party. If you think that’s problematic for the right, think again. It’s not a secessionist party as such, but obviously the word “independence” doesn’t look good.

By: bobschacht

bobschacht — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 06:40:48 +0000

“This” = what?

Bob in HI

By: moe99

moe99 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 06:25:07 +0000

This is why she had to get back to Alaska to deliver Trig. I am certain of it.

By: Kirk James Murphy, M.D.

Kirk James Murphy, M.D. — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 06:14:28 +0000

Perhaps McCain’s second pick for Veep will be from the Ecotopian Independence movement

By: bobschacht

bobschacht — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 06:06:06 +0000

Hawaii has the Hawaii equivalent of AIP, the Hawaiian Sovereignty Movement The Wikipedia makes clear that this article has problems, but it offers plenty of links and a decent start on understanding the movement.

Bottom line: The “statehood” movements in Hawaii and Alaska were not unopposed.

Bob in HI

By: bobschacht

bobschacht — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 05:59:09 +0000

I’m predicting she’s off the ticket by the end of the week. She’ll have an “Eagleton moment.”

Bob in HI

By: Ian Welsh

Ian Welsh — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 05:58:17 +0000

Edward, it doesn’t matter if they’re a harmless, it seems many of them are dead serious, having to explain it to Americans is going to be really really unpleasant for the campaign.

“Let him(her) deny it”.

This wasn’t broken here, and it’s already in the press.

And plenty of the the AIP types seem to be dead serious.

I don’t think Red State trolls started it, because it’s a very dangerous thing to have start getting around. “America right or wrong, especially when wrong” is a right wing touchstone.

By: bobschacht

bobschacht — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 05:57:08 +0000

I’m questioning his judgment. Is this how he’s gonna select cabinet members if (making sign of the cross to fend off vampires) he gets elected?

Bob in HI